My ancestor Lucy Walker knew Joe, in the biblical sense.
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Through my maternal grandmother, I am related to Lucy Walker. You guessed it! 17 year old, who married good ol' Joseph. All growing up, I was told she was one of Hyrum's wives. Why? Found out a few years ago the nasty truth. When I asked my mother, crickets. Still haven't heard a response on that one. It's a fun one to bring up with all the Mormon's around though. "Pioneer
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I came from a divorced family, so grew up both in Utah and Missouri, Utah Mormon's can be MEAN. They are very materialistic and cliqueish, and it isn't enough to just be Mormon to be one of the group. Missouri Mormon's understood. They were the minority, and REALLY cared about what they believed in and what made them different. They never put their Mormonism on pause, like many Utah Morm
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Agreed. What's worse, is that a lot of the women who do stay at home, try and find reasons to validate themselves. A lot of them look down on working moms. I had a lady once say to me that she didn't understand how I could be away from my son so much. She loves her kids more than that. It made me realize-- THAT'S why I go to work. I hate my offspring.
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I read this at 16, just on my own. I've gone back to it multiple times since then, and I would say it played a big part in me getting out-- or at least seeing the corruption within. I loved it so much, I have a big tattoo on my arm of a tree and a quote from the book. I live in the Morridor, and have to explain this tattoo to 98% of people I meet. Very rarely does someone recognize the refere
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"A Child's Prayer" The Primary song. Always hated that song. It's like the girl side is all confused and looking for reassurance, then the male side comes in and comforts and soothes. Bunch of bull. It just fuels the hopeless woman syndrome that TSCC loves to promote.
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Oh screw 'em! Just get it and they'll either avoid talking about it, or bring it up right away. If it's something that is very meaningful to you, just explain why you wanted it and hopefully they'll understand you thought out your decision. I have four big 'ens. It's a slippery slope, they're so fun-- and the pain varies on where you're getting it. I kinda like the pain.
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I had my first big "O" the day after Valentine's day, of this year. I am 26. It's very much about the giving your mind in completely to the sex. Don't let it wander. The shaming and fear of sex in my upbringing I think is very much to do with me not being able to have one. Dunno if it would work for everyone, but I'm telling you-- once it happened, the flood gates opened. Just
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I just got married, can confirm. Send them money. Money is what we got excited about. Also, if they're having a big Mormony wedding, they won't get much. They'll remember you.
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Kearns. I stay pretty much to myself, and get out of town as much as possible. I am a tattood up atheist vegetarian, so I do not fit in super well. What I hate the most-- there is next to nothing as far as good restaurants/little local shops around. Every chain restaurant and chain store imaginable is within minutes, though. THAT, I hate. As a food lover and a person who can't stand Wal-m
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White Russians. Chock full of calories, though. It's like a dessert in a cup that gets you a buzz going. Most delicious.
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I'm reading "The Lost Life of Eva Braun" by Angela Lambert. Would highly recommend, I have exhausted so many other topics related to World War 2, it's very interesting to learn more about this not-so-documented historical figure. I feel for her, honestly. Also, she looks a great deal like I look. "Under the Banner of Heaven" is one of my favorites, by the way. Also
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Makes me think of this, I'm sure everyone's seen it. http://weknowmemes.com/2012/01/thanks-jesus-for-this-food-de-nada/
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I feel bad for these girls. I was one of them once. I think those dresses look silly, and I believe most of those girls think so as well. The wedding dresses are worse. So much money spent, beautiful skirts, and then what is essentially a tight fitting white t-shirt up top. Looks ridiculous, and takes away from the bride feeling beautiful.
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RandomNobody-- Thank you for your comment. I know that these marriages lead to beautiful ones sometimes, I have seen it firsthand. That is what I hope very much for this couple. Even if they stay with the church, I just hope that as they learn to find theirselves, their love grows. I think from looking at them, that they very well could be the exception. :)
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Haha! We actually coincidentally found some dear friends (ex-mo drinkers, like ourselves, who had been at our wedding a week before.) My friend was actually a step sibling to the groom, the bride being a cousin of mine. We were so happy to see like-minded souls in a room staring at our barely visible arm tattoos. We stayed on hour, shared a stale donut, and left to go to her house, Beers were
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I KNOW that the parents on both sides are pretty loaded, so it just illustrated again that these types of weddings are just the norm. They're paying for so many kids to have the same thing done, they're all as generic as they can possibly be. I just got married last Friday, and paid for everything myself, so it's a bit frustrating to see them skimp so much. My wedding was legendary, from wh
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So, yesterday evening I went to a distant cousin's wedding reception in "the County." Standard. Church gym, christmas lights, grocery store donuts and carrot sticks. The bride is 18, the groom 22. The have known each other less than 6 months. Met at BYU. Going on a MORMON HISTORY TOUR on their honeymoon. Is it terrible that the more I heard of their story, the more doomed for
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Agreed. When people give me the whole "encourages family values! What harm could it do?" I think of my in-laws. They are a testament to what harm it can do. Their entire retirement years are going to be spent struggling in every sense of the word... because of their beliefs.
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My in-laws story is essentially the same too. I am in your boat. We have a full separate basement apartment in our house, and I am terrified it'll be the new home for the in-laws. They have zero retirement and are destitute as well. 8 kids. Father wouldn't get a job since the 90's and mother has worked an hourly wage that entire time. They had wealthy parents themselves who left them a big i
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Thanks for the responses! I see how requesting emails to get addresses for invitations could be seen as backwards. My issue is I do not subscribe to any social media, and therefore it has made it hard for me to assemble a myriad of addresses without the ability to go down a friends list. I think I will do as rhgc suggested. Morgana-- Offended IS their word. Thanks for reminding me o
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I am getting married in less than a month. I have no immediate family that live close to me, but since my mother's extended family are all the DIE HARD mormon type, I have literally a few hundred relatives within a 50 mile radius. I write to/read the family newsletter they send out. I seem to be the only one on the outs, all of their entries are completely about who got baptized/missioned/te
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I was a bit indifferent on Napoleon Dynamite. I actually enjoyed the movie "Gentleman Broncos" a lot more, and it has very much the same feel. As far as my favorites, I love to death "Harold and Maude." All the old Steve Martin stuff is gold as well, I especially like "The Jerk." Wes Anderson also rules. I am very excited to see "The Grand Budapest
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You need to find some people on the outside, you'd be surprised at how many there are. I work in the outdoor industry and live up in Salt Lake, I rarely interract with the TBM's. My stomach does seem to tense up when driving south past the point of the mountain though, it is probably much harder in the Utah County, if that's where you are.
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We're vegetarians and just like above, we plan on making our own version of a "stuffed turkey" with a meat substitute called seitan. The only thing I will miss, is the ham. Oh, the ham. Going to be a lot of roll eating.
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Hey! I am 26, and still nothing. You give me hope! I know mine is a mental issue, I blame the church for a lot of those I deal with. Maybe 9 more years...
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I am a Salt Lake Cityer, and I love this city! I guess it kind of depends on what you are into, but there are many great restaurants and sites to see. If she is into great food and social drinking, one of my favorite places to go is the Bayou on State street in Downtown Salt Lake. On weekends it has live music, and the food is to die for. I am a vegetarian, and they have great options for m
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I got engaged to a Mormon gentleman while being a single mother. It was one of those things where I had had a miserable time trying to date, and he seemed genuinely into me and my son. I said yes, thinking we'd have a wedding 2 years out or something. Not so. His mormon family took over and our wedding was within 3 months of engagement. I tried to tell my sister the night before our mar
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All such great advice! Thanks, all. I am totally going to make sure and have an awesome 8th birthday for him, rather than have him get baptized like all the other kids around. No school today and Halloween yesterday so haven't done anything about it just yet, but have plans! I am here in Utah because I have a good job here that I love, and my fiance is getting his Electrician's Journeyman shi
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Thanks, sfbayutes! I have dealt with some that just won't give up here in Utah-- it seems if you don't go to any church, they just can't wrap their heads around that. They seem to think my soul has this giant gaping hole in it if I am not wasting my Sunday's in some church building. Yours may be the best solution.
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