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9 years ago
Facing Tao
Hello everybody! It's been a few months since I've been RfM to any significant degree, but suffering through the family watching GC today, and (particularly DW) taking jabs at me left and right for not participating, reminded me to come to stop by and say hello to everybody. :-) Hope everybody is doing well, and those who are coerced to watch GC, or who suffer from the weekend's side effect
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9 years ago
Facing Tao
Cripple, she is doing quite well. No need to worry about her.. things will take their time, but all will be well eventually. All of your (everybody's) advice and support has been very much appreciated by both her and myself.
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9 years ago
Facing Tao
Ragnar, thanks for pointing that out. It must be an ESL thing for me ;).
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9 years ago
Facing Tao
I told her before posting that someone would say that! ;) Thanks Tupperwhere & icedtea! :)
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9 years ago
Facing Tao
Hi all.. I've been absent from the board the most part for almost two months, only occasionally popping in here, and quickly scanning the top headers. First, to all those who're doubting that strawberryshortcake's situation would not as she has described it here: I can assure it is accurate, and that she is a quite real, young woman. :) As I briefly noted in the "For strawberryshortcake&
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
My hope is that it will implode fast enough to save my children from being sucked in with my TBM wife's assistance. There's 4-5 years time for it to implode to dial up cog dis sufficiently before the danger zone (missionary age) begins.
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
This was the first conference I had to overhear (can't avoid it entirely in a TBM household) with my expanded awareness of TSCC history. Whereas I could still last fall sit to listen to it for DW's benefit, now the talks *disgust* me, and I have hard time controlling my expressions about them. What utter garbage!! You truly can't un-ring a bell; there's no going back to the semi-unaware state whe
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
She's ok, no need to worry.
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Some medium's take on the fate of flight MH370. http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2014/03/malaysia-airline-mh370.html Sounds rather much like "LOST" TV-series... :-)
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
I hope it wasn't a "I'm going away" message.. at least it didn't expressly say so.
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Suppose porn can be addictive and so people can abuse it like alcohol or drugs (or Internet, or MPGs, or food, or exercise, or sleep, or...). And suppose it can affect what people expect from intimate relationships (although I doubt that theory..). I'd wager that porn can be used responsibly, in a non-damaging way. Whether it's damaging for the people who produce it, especially in a "prof
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Creepsville, indeed!! If they were to go to sit by a lake in morning mist at 5am on a early summer morning, they'd experience such peace and reverence the temple can never ever match. THAT kind of experience one actually misses.
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Instead it teaches that if a teenager finds themselves migrating to homosexual direction, they're in stan's grip and must fight it. In the areas where the surrounding society's Morg pressure is great (Morridor), such teens come to a sad, final solution as they feel there's nowhere to go. :(
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
A mini-van, I say! Or yes, an oversized SUV (for the purpose). I just came across an old thread here from 2010 where someone mentions the abbreviation "MAV" (Mormon Assault Vehicle ;). http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,12350,12505
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
It's interesting that this came up today. I was just earlier today thinking, that for a small child, before TSCC demands start, TSCC probably provides a reasonably happy environment for most kids. The problem is that while they're happily visiting primary, they're being programmed. This horrifies me as my TBM wife takes kids to the church every Sunday. The kids already indicate that it is me who
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
"Probably why I didn't realize it was a cult until after I married a member." Yes, exactly. That is probalby why TSCC is not labeled as a cult by the general public right off the bat. TSCC PR department has been busy at work, creating a "wholesome family church" image to the world at large. The deeper you go, the weirder it gets, until you reach the temple that screams: C-U
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
I've been sampling variety of green teas recently. Oolong, Majestic Jade, Matcha... yum! :) One of my favorite places for teas on the web is www . teavana . com.
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
I've forgotten mine.. but I don't worry about it. ;)
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Need to add this idea to my stack of ideas to develop! It has been always so that the most meaningful web-projects have been such that have somehow made a positive impact in people's lives. This could be such. I totally agree about RfM! And I also agree that there's a risk involved even here for those who are married. A more intimate venue (venue, I said! :) would in some ways be safer as the
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
»He admitted he was feeling resentful towards me for always "bashing" the church.» I hear this often, too. I say that I would "just like to have a conversation", but apparently a conversation can only be had if its contents are approved by the church, otherwise it is "bashing" and "disrespectful of her faith". It is very frustrating!
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
10 years ago
Facing Tao
I'm sure it could be implemented. I've just wondered what it would lead to if a 'safe' venue was offered to people who've been rejected by their spouses, sometimes for years...
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
The greatest harm by TSCC is done to the families: marriages, and parent-child relationships. That alone is irrefutable proof of Morg's rotten roots.
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
It was me (always thinking of something new as a web developer ;)). I've been thinking about this, a little bit tongue-in-cheek, while reading this board. I recall an earlier conversation at some point where someone was asking about meeting other exmos to date. Someone else replied something to the effect of: "Why limit yourself to exmos only?" In some ways that is true, but in others e
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Perhaps that is why, then, when some TBM/BICs leave TSCC, they feel they need to give the purpoted nonmo lifestyle a go. "So this is how it is to be a nonmo!" ;) Most sooner or later realize, however, that that is not how most nevermo/nonmo people live. The social environment people find themselves immersed in can make people believe in crazy things. I've heard people making similar
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
From a never-TBM point of view it is interesting to see how many ex-TBMs, and especially BICs seem to indeed have such a rebound effect upon leaving TSCC. In that way the TSCC standard line: "You left so that you could sin." is partially correct at least for part of the exmos: it's not the reason but a consequence. Having lived all of one's life in a highly restrictive social environmen
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
+1 Just need a good name for the service! :-)
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
Many of us are "church widows/widowers". :-> We should start a "spouse exchange service" where we could trade spouses so that TBMs and non-TBMs would be matched! ;-)
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
> - my parents don't know I struggle > - i constantly feel guilty > - I don't know how to live my life outside of being a mormon Those are very typical feelings people have while in the church, and while starting to have awareness of the many problems in it. You're, essentially, experiencing cognitive dissonance. Imagine how people who have been chuch members, say, 50 years, feel wh
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10 years ago
Facing Tao
"I think maybe you two should consider counseling because if it gets much worse...." This is often suggested. But I don't think there are too many cases where counseling helps in the cases like this. An LDS counsellor would advice for the couple to "pray more" and for the non-TBM spouse to participate more in TSCC activities to "compromise", while a non-LDS counse
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