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7 years ago
Templar
And don't forget Amy Adams. The TSCC sure forgets to name these individuals like it does Gladys Knight and the beloved Osmonds.
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7 years ago
Templar
Hey, they treated me poorly WHEN I WAS IN THE CULT if I did not say or do exactly what they wanted me to say or do. Mormonism is clearly a "fair weather" cultish religion if there ever was one.
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7 years ago
Templar
Agreed that both statements are vague. Since God has never appeared to me, or Joseph Smith for that matter, I know nothing more.
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7 years ago
Templar
The whole Mormon idea of celestial males have celestial sex with multiple celestial females thereby producing celestial spirits to animate newly created physical bodies on other worlds is one hell of a whopper for sure! Of course, anyone foolish enough to actually believe the Book of Mormon is anything other than frontier fiction would likely stomach this bullshit as well.
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7 years ago
Templar
I'll drink to that for sure!
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7 years ago
Templar
Nothing new here. Mormonism's beloved "Brother Joseph" was well known for appropriating the words of others as his own original creations. One of the few things he actually did originate was becoming "sealed for eternity" to other men's wives, to induce them to have improper and illegal sexual relations with him.
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7 years ago
Templar
Reincarnation makes one hell of a lot more sense to me than any of the bullshit Christianity and Mormonism has to offer. Plus, I can fully embrace reincarnation without having to put up with or give any money to the religionists. I, of course, may be completely wrong, but if death really does end it all what will it matter?
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7 years ago
Templar
God is the sum total of all that is. Beyond that I know nothing about god.
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7 years ago
Templar
Why would anyone expect any good to come out of something so clearly flawed as Mormonism, a male dominated cult?
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7 years ago
Templar
I read all this about personal sacrifice and devotion and I frankly find it hard to believe that people are really this gullible. But then again, it's no wonder that Utah is the scam capital of the world. How stupid can people get? Mormons are so deeply deluded they don't even begin to comprehend the extent they are being used. They should be enjoying their "golden years" loving the
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7 years ago
Templar
Given the fact that Mormonism is ultimately based on celestial marriage and eternal reward, the only truly committed Mormons are those who hold current temple recommends. These likely can be counted somewhere in the hundreds of thousands - a very small number of the claimed 15M members and an almost infinitesimal percentage of the worlds population. While the unholy 15 and their "believer
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7 years ago
Templar
He would probably do like my dad always did and yell "goddammit"!
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7 years ago
Templar
I think it is learned. I well remember Friday night boxing on television in the 1950's. I went with my dad to my uncles where eight to ten of us watched the matches. The main match always featured a white guy in black trunks against a black guy in white trunks. The black guy NEVER won on points. He only won when he scored a decisive knockout which almost never happened. My uncles throughout th
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7 years ago
Templar
Growing up in Salt Lake City I did "baptisms for the dead" quite often. I really never felt the experience to be either "spiritual" or "dark and foreboding". It actually seemed rather silly - "for and in behalf of **** who is dead." After all, the person is dead so why do anything for them? Later as a elder, I did dozens of washings and anointings while
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7 years ago
Templar
I didn't mean to imply for a minute that I thought the church itself had any integrity. Frankly, the leaders like Holland and Oaks are a bunch of lying bastards in my book. If they weren't, they would honestly admit "work for the dead" is a sham and missions today are a waste of time and money. I was just referring to some of the individuals involved with the Joseph Smith Papers Pro
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7 years ago
Templar
While I agree that much information is kept from Mormons in their correlated lessons, I would paraphrase the wise words of Socrates ("the unexamined life is not worth living") and state that "the unexamined religion is not worth following".
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7 years ago
Templar
Phazer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Any historians out there want to weigh in > regarding the process the Joseph Smith project > used and IF they "selectively" discarded some > juicy tidbits of information that was just too > embarrassing to publish and make known? That, of course, happened all too often in the past when Joseph
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7 years ago
Templar
I truly can't imagine why Tom would want a temple recommend in the first place. He knows full well that so-called "work for the dead" is a sham and a huge time waster. I, for one, have had zero desire to set foot inside a mormon temple since leaving the church in 1970. My time can be better spent watching old television reruns.
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7 years ago
Templar
Ezra Taft Benson actually made the following prophesy during the semi-annual conference held October, 1988 https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1988/10/i-testify?lang=eng "God’s wrath will soon shake the nations of the earth and will be poured out on the wicked without measure. But God will provide strength for the righteous and the means of escape; and eventually and finally truth wi
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7 years ago
Templar
In the early seventies, I was contacted in Utah by a female I had previously met at church when she was single. She explained that she and her husband would like me to be their guest at a meeting to learn of a great business opportunity. They pulled up in a very old Ford that ran like it couldn't make it out of the parking lot. The "great business opportunity" turned out to be a pyra
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7 years ago
Templar
Year by year Mormonism has become less relevant. It is clearly a nineteenth century relic stuck in the twenty-first century by mistake. It will die a long slow death as more and more individuals determine that it has nothing for them. While it was the "religion" held in great esteem by my pioneer ancestors, Mormonism clearly has nothing of even the slightest interest to me.
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7 years ago
Templar
The first authentic church history book I read was in 1959. It was entitled "Great Basin Kingdom" by Leonard J. Arrington who later became LDS Church Historian after Joseph Fielding Smith. The book was well written and showed that Brigham Young tried many things - some that worked well, and some that didn't. It was clear to me back then that leaders of the church have, if fact, led m
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7 years ago
Templar
I wore the old "one piece" garment as my underwear - nothing else underneath. I was well out of the cult by the time the two piece modern style was adopted.
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7 years ago
Templar
Dishonesty is the MO of the so-called "true" church and is certainly nothing new. Smith lied from the very beginning and his followers have carried on the tradition.
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7 years ago
Templar
I don't recall the name of it, but during my mission an individual showed me what he said was an important book against the church. I thumbed through it and noticed that the writer claimed to have jumped out of the temple into the Great Salt Lake in order to escape. I smiled and said "that would have been some jump!"
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7 years ago
Templar
As a mason, I can state that Ed Decker's anti-masonic books are equally as bad. Nothing but garbage from end to the other.
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7 years ago
Templar
catnip Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The mish who baptized me in the late 80s told me that > everyone in his mission (Louisiana Baton Rouge, I > think) had been instructed to REALLY question > potential black converts, to find out if they were > more interested in the welfare program than in the > gospel. In the early 60s we did the
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7 years ago
Templar
fossilman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was free from the burden of trying to create > spirituality out of bull shit. Ain't that the truth. Well put fossilman!
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