So, I was watching a mormon stories podcast with Benji Schwimmer. He mentioned that when he told his bishop he was gay he was told that he was blacklisted from ever working with youth. Is there a document of some sort that has this policy? I need to "prove" it! hahaha! Thanks for your help!!
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Being angry isn't a bad thing at all! It's all part of losing a huge part of you that's been lost and rebuilding a newer, happier you. I've been out for 2 years and am just getting over the anger. My marriage almost ended over it. Luckily, I have an amazing TBM wife who has been very patient during my tantrums. I've also had to learn to let some things go in order to keep the peace and allow
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I love my wife to pieces and understand the "crazy". I need to remember that I was just there 2 years ago. My disaffection with the church has been really hard on her and our marriage. We're moving back to the States in a couple of weeks so we'll have access to a good NON MORMON therapist to help us work through this craziness. I just wish she could take a step back and see things a
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I've been out of the church for almost 2 years! (Yay me!) During the past 2 years I have enjoyed the pleasure of a hot cup of coffee with a dallop of coconut oil and a bit of sugar to sweeten things up. It's a pleasure that I would even consider healthy given the benefits of coffee to my CV health and the great benefits of the coconut oil. (I guess the only unhealthy part is the spoonful of su
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Thanks for sharing Bruce! It looks like I'm from your hometown! I love G-Town!!
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My dad just messaged me with this link asking me to please watch it with an open mind. Let's say this is real. . . Native Americans have the same DNA as the Hebrews. Does this automatically translate to "Joe as a prophet"?? What about the other 10,000 things on my list of "crazy"?
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I just found this on my Facebook feed. It's official, the church is true, the BofM is true, Native (North) Americans are decendents of Lehi because this guy says so. (Oh yeah, if it's all true, I guess God really does hate the Gays after-all!!) http://ldsmissionaries.com/dna-evidence-book-of-mormon/
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THanks for all the advice. It's nice to know I have a place to turn to when faced with life issues. I confronted my wife last night about how she'll feel when I'm home or going out on Sundays while she's at church. She didn't like the idea. Many other issues came up as well. (It's never ending) It'll be nice to have access to counseling where we can finally (productively) discuss our issues
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So, I discovered the truth about 2 years ago. I discovered it while living in China. (I'm still here) This discovery almost ended my marriage and very well still could. The great thing about being an ex-mo in China(at least an ex-mo in heart, I'm still on their records) is that I get to work every Sunday. On the rare chance I don't have to work, it causes a huge fight because my wife continue
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This has always been an area of interest for me. I'd love to learn more about it.
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I think I'm going to chalk many of my "experiences up to sleep paralysis. Even though some happened when I was fully awake. I had to do some arms to the square stuff. Who knows what that was. All I know is that now I'm FREE!!!
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That was my life in a rap!! Loved it!! Thanks for sharing.
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Ever since I was about 11 I've been plagued with spirits. I would "see" shadows or feel the hairs on my neck raise up. There was one time as teenager that I swear I saw my blankets being lifted off my bed by a dark spirit. As a TBM I always assumed it was ole' Stan trying to get to my body because he didn't get one himself. Even into adulthood I was "visited" by these feelin
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Maybe they were only the last ones to blab about it. For all profits since them, it was probably too secret, I mean "sacred" of an experience! I always wondered why these "special witnesses of Christ", I mean, "special witnesses TO THE NAME of Christ" never mentioned their experiences. Were their visits more "special" or "important" than JS or B
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So, the prophet ISN'T a "speshul" witness of Jesus??? hahaha!
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as much as he loved Alma the Younger. I've told my TBM wife that I'd return if He sent Jesus to visit me and tell me that it's true. Hell, I'd even settle for an angel. I'd have a true "conversion" for sure!! God knows the furture and knows that I probably wouldn't convert so that's why he's not sending Jesus or a Heavenly helper. My thoughts automatically went to Laman and Lemuel.
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I always felt sacreligious for even thinking about this during the endowment but did anyone notice that in one of creation scenes in one of the movies there is a mother and baby dolphin in the clouds and the other video there is a giant Mickey Mouse made of stars. I thought it was me being "non-spiritual" and not focusing but come to find out those scenes were taken from Disney's Fanta
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Holy Crap!! When I read that list it made me think that my mother was there teaching me all of those wonderful truths of the gospel. I totally agree with claire on this one. . . I'm 36, come from pioneer stock on both sides, and have heard every one of thost points. As a teenager I was warned about dating girls of different races. I was taught Stan couldn't read my thoughts. I was taught that
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Where can I find more information on the computer scans that show that the BofM was written by one author??? I remember as a kid that I was always taught that the "scholars" said that the writing styles of each book in the BofM were different proving that it was a compilation of several different people as opposed to one author.
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Yesterday my brother forwarded a message that was posted on his Facebook page by an old TBM neigbor. To give you a little background, my brother is gay and FINALLY in a loving relationship with a guy that my family LOVES!! Back to the story. . . Here's the message: "Gotta drop u as a facebook friend...nothing personal...just can't support your beliefs" attached to a link to a millennial
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I feel for you and am in your shoes!! I stopped going about 15 months ago. My discovery took about 2 hours. It was the best and hardest thing I've ever done for myself. My wife and I still struggle. We've had many heated discussions and have shed a lot of tears. There's always an elephant in the room that we continue to ignore. I've heard from people on the board that it gets better. I gu
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My wife and kids are still TBM and we're at that awkward stage where I'm trying to be "normal" and she's not OK with it. Anyway, we were at a restaruant. I wanted lemonade but they didn't have any so I ordered an iced tea instead. (I've never had iced tea and thought it'd be a good refresher!) Anyway, the look on my wife's face looked like I'd just killed a puppy. My 8 yr old immedi
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I was trained to feel the spirit a certain way. I was told what was the spirit and what wasn't the spirit. I was told how to feel it and what things would make me feel it. A lot of what I felt I created in my head because if I didn't feel it something was wrong with me. I remember in a bishopric meeting the bishop brought in a recording of the motab singing a hymn and a popular church song be
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I did the exact thing a year ago. It took about the same amount of time to figure out that the whole thing was BS!! My wife was, and still is, devastated. Her crying fits are only a couple times a month now. (But when they happen, they are BAD!) I've gone into "super husband mode". This past year has easily been the hardest and most eye-opening of my life. I love seeing the world
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sinful shoulders, my wife has a definite disney take on life and I screwed that up! We've looked into therapy but being so far away from english speakers, it makes it near impossible. Being far away from the states makes life easier in some respects. (We're away from church drama and family). And in some respects much harder. (far away from good counselors, help, etc.) This makes for a very lon
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johnnyboy, I know she didn't really read it. She probably thumbed throught it with her blinders on. "It's all lies that are trying to destroy faith. . ." madalice, We've been married for 14 years and it's been absolute bliss. We really hadn't had any arguments or even disagreements until this came about. We were both completely wrapped up in the church. It's hard to disagree on a
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I think it's a good idea to use the Bible a bit. (Even though I give it about as much credit as I do the BofM) At least it'd be more middle groundish. When I first learned about the true history of the church I sent her the CES letter and she read it but it had NO effect on her. In fact, it proved, even further, that the church was true. (whatever that means)
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csuprovograd, The future does look bleak! The church, unfortunately doesn't give many options in these types of situations. Thanks for your input!
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Thanks for the tips SuzieQ (my imaginary friend!)! I did bring up to her, months ago, that we should come to a truce and not talk religion. We seem a lot more happy when we avoid the subject. The e-mail this week mentioned that she felt that spirituality was lacking in our marriage and that she needed it. That's why I suggested the middle road approach. I feel like I'm doing all I can for he
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I began my journey away from the Mormon church a little over a year ago. I've posted my story previously. My wife is TBM to the core. I love her to death and am really trying to hold things together and make her happy. We still read the cartoon BofM every night with our 4 kids, we have family prayer, we hold family home evening, they go to church every Sunday (without fail), and we even have
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