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3 years ago
westernwillows
I hope they did! Lots of sunshine and lots of good people. All four said they were going to tell their parents about their day. It seems to be the highlight of their mission so far.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I believe they have nothing to do. I've had some strange encounters with random strangers that message me on Facebook and I suspect they are missionaries. These kids hit the jackpot. They got to be NORMAL. The best part was seeing them wearing regular clothes. No white shirt and tie. Nothing stays white long at a rodeo ;)
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Yesterday I hosted a 4H equestrian event. I'm in a COVID-19 hotspot and my facility is currently the only one in my area willing to host large events (masks and social distancing mandatory -- and everyone was super nice about it). The event's organizers brought four missionaries with them to help throughout the day. These boys hit the jackpot with service projects. They wore regular clothes (n
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Mine happened sometime shortly after I turned 12 when I realized we had to pay for everything we wanted to do. Girl's Camp. Going on a Trek. Food in the temple cafeteria. EFY. Missions (okay, I knew people paid for their own missions but it BLEW MY MIND when some of my Christian friends went on mission trips with their churches and it didn't cost them anything AND some of them got paid for their
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3 years ago
westernwillows
There's lots of us non-garment-wearing people here =) No temple for me! I'm glad I got out before I was pressured into taking out my endowments.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
No, my mom is so deeply entrenched in the cult that pointing it out wouldn't get me anywhere. Sometimes I wonder who my mother could have been had she not been BIC. She was the first woman to graduate from her state's law enforcement academy in the 1970s and worked for the FBI. My mom was COOL. Then she got married and started having kids and quit working and the church became her life.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I found it interesting how many countries ban covering the face. I'm curious how they're handling that during the pandemic. Surely some Muslim women want to wear a hijab and need to wear a mask as required by local ordinance.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Alas, we are outside the holy land of Utah, but I do appreciate in the article that Nelson asked church members to be good global citizens during the pandemic. My mom apparently missed that statement from him.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I think we should bring back the trend!
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3 years ago
westernwillows
No doubt if the profit made a statement and declared that everyone should wear a mask then she would whip out her sewing machine and make herself a whole designer line of them and wear them proudly. I guess my county's commissioners aren't enough of an authority for her. The topic of church attendance during the pandemic while she was here, and she is convinced that it is of utmost importance
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I'm not sure I've seen the orange deity or his cardboard underling wearing a mask themselves. Do as they say, not as they do? I've been avoiding the news in this crazy time.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Somehow she forgot the "obey the laws of the land" thing that the people formerly known as Mormon preach. Or do they not tell their members that anymore?
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I was BIC so I always knew what garments were, and I always thought they were hideous. My much older cousin liked to shop at Victoria's Secret, and if I was around she took me along, so I knew that much prettier undergarments existed too. When I was Senior Primary age, maybe 9, I told my mom that I didn't want to wear garments when I grew up. Her response was that you just wear them and deal with
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I was raised in the church, so I had heard about polygamy from the time I was born. I can't remember when I first heard it, but I always knew about polygamy in heaven, so I was either going to find a righteous priesthood holder to marry and after we died he would have other wives, or I would end up single and be assigned as someone's wife in the afterlife. I remember one of my YW leaders teaching
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I was taught this in YW in the late 1990s/early 2000s. It was always part of the temple marriage lesson. You know, the one where they tell you it is better to stay single than marry outside the temple because you can still be sealed to a worthy priesthood holder in the afterlife. Maybe they didn't teach the YM that, but we definitely got that lesson at least twice a year.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I feel bad for most missionaries. Both of my brothers served missions because of family/church pressure and neither wanted to go. I imagine many of these young people are in the same predicament. They were all well aware that I had been raised in the church and had left. As long as they didn't try to reactivate me or bear their testimonies, they were free to be themselves in my home. I imagine th
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3 years ago
westernwillows
When I lived in Montana, my house was a known "safe place" for missionaries. We had an understanding. No talk of the gospel. They could come use my internet, watch TV, call their families/girlfriends, etc. I lived there for 9 years and some missionaries used my "safe place" more than others. Anyway, even way back in the dark ages of 2009 missionaries were looking for odd jo
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I remembered parts of the theme we had in the late 1990s but I couldn't remember it all. So, like any good millenial, I asked Google. The church has done a remarkable job at eliminating previous themes! I couldn't find it.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I was in YW from 1995-2002. We rotated through the values for Sunday lessons and Wednesday activities. At the time the values were: Faith Divine Nature Individual Worth Knowledge Choice and Accountability Good Works Integrity Yes, we had plenty of indoctrination lessons on Sundays, but we had some really excellent ones in there too. I suspect some of my leaders had one foot out th
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Our towns are approximately 100 miles apart, so I doubt that I appeared on some ward list (I officially resigned in 2009). I suspect she came across my profile in a Facebook group and decided I might be a good prospect since I have porn shoulders in my profile picture and am clearly not LDS.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
What sent up red flags was that she said she was interested in "your family history" meaning mine. If she had said she was interested in family history in general and was reaching out to people to survey if they knew about their own, I probably would have engaged in conversation with her. Her language came off very stalker-like, which is what sent up the red flags. I have porn shoulders
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3 years ago
westernwillows
The girl who messaged me appears to be in her early 20s. Certainly missionary age.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I hear my nevermo friends use the term "genealogy" but an interest in it is pretty rare among them.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Honesty, I've never looked. The girl's profile picture certainly makes her look like a sister missionary with a floral dress reminiscent of dresses I wore to church in the late 1990s. But apparently 90s fashion is back, so I can't really say if she is a missionary or not.
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I got a message on Facebook yesterday from someone I didn't know, but since I own a small business and freelance a bit, this isn't an unusual occurrence. This woman and I had no mutual connections, and her profile showed she lives in a neighboring town. Here's how our conversation went (her name is Emily): E: Hey westernwillows, I have a random question. Me: Sure. Ask away. E: So I've be
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3 years ago
westernwillows
You remind me so much of myself, 25 years ago (except that I'm female and didn't have to worry about the pressure to serve a mission, but the pressure to marry in the temple was certainly there). I left the church the day I left my parents house. I went out of state to college and simply stopped attending. Sure, I racked up $55,000 in student loan debt, but I look at that as the cost of my fre
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3 years ago
westernwillows
Seriously, the ONLY reason I removed my name was because the church WOULDN'T LEAVE ME ALONE!!! They had no problem calling my parents or my grandparents to get my information, and my parents and grandparents are so entrenched in the church they would, of course, provide that information in the attempt to bring me back to the flock. Resignation did solve the problem. I've never come out to my
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I stopped attending church in 2002 the day I moved out of my parents' house, and in 2008 I got a call from some lady who introduced herself as "Sister So-and-So" from "The Church" (like I should know what church she meant) who said she was looking for westernwillows. I told her that was my name, but I didn't know what she was talking about, playing dumb. She asked my DOB and
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I left the Mormon Church the day I left my parents house at age 18, and I officially resigned when I was 25. My family has been Mormon for generations. Both of my brothers and my parents remain active, as well as most of my cousins, so no, I haven't escaped its influence. I've never told any of them that I resigned, but I suspect my dad knows. The Church has a huge influence in their lives,
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3 years ago
westernwillows
I'll admit my only knowledge of assistance from the church has come from this board, and most of that involves someone who was in a financial pinch and denied assistance. I find it very interesting that the ward is paying the rent for two employed adults who make around $80,000/year (their salaries are public record, and I checked before they moved in). I know assistance varies based on the gener
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