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messygoop
In the court briefs, part of the evidence lists the victim came to the BYU dorm to be alone with the QB in the early AM. It is acknowledged that 3 other BYU roommates left the apartment to he and the woman could spend time alone together. That in itself is a major violation of the BYU honor code. Realistically, 3 more BYU football players should be facing disciplinary actions for leaving him alon
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Yesterday
messygoop
You don't have to attend a funeral to remember and honor a deceased person.
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Yesterday
messygoop
I don't attend but you can watch them on YouTube if you're a glutton for punishment.
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2 days ago
messygoop
It's been reported that he has already graduated. He was planning to build up his stats with the upcoming BYU season.
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4 days ago
messygoop
Like others serving a mission for the church, the mission president was a tyrant. He was livid when the church increased our monthly allowance of 115 to 125. I served stateside in the 1990s and part of our monthly worthiness interview was to present a fast offering receipt slip of 12.50. The prick was meticulous too, using a magnifying glass to inspect for fraud and or tampering of the slip. He p
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5 days ago
messygoop
It's not discussed here too much, but the church is having trouble with believing members who do not accept that JS instituted polygamy and polyandry. They are proudly identifying themselves as polygamy deniers or monogamy affirmers. I have listened to several podcasts about members who have been church disciplined for not remaining quiet on this issue. These excommunicated members are upset with
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5 days ago
messygoop
A bunch of us deacons were pretty immature and juvenile. Some of us were squirrels. We had Aaronic priesthood leaders who often walked up to sit next to us. Sometimes mayhem continued with two adults standing in our midst. One kid had a serious beef with another kid. He would kick the heels of the one in front (flat tire if your shoe was kicked off) when walking to the altar. Yes, we had trips an
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5 days ago
messygoop
A small tidbit. I grew up in Northern California and I played football. And my high-school played both Folsom HS and its well to do Oak Ridge rival. So I am familiar with the area.
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5 days ago
messygoop
There's a church approved story about a young man who is planning to serve a one year full time proselytizing before reporting to BYU for Quaterback tryouts for the 2027 BYU football season. Messy adds-:It's so great that the church will gladly accommodate certain individuals so long as it benefits the church. My personal missionary saga went this way. Waited until I turned 19 in July but not
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5 days ago
messygoop
My parents thought the temple food was the bomb ,really good. I did not. I thought the prices were expensive. A small bowl of potato soup was 6.75. They had tuna fish sandwiches for 10 dollars. Beverages were water, milk and orange juice. It was 4.00 for a single serving. I hated that the church nickled and dimed everyone. An extra 2 pack of Saltine crackers cost another buck. NO PERSONAL CHEC
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5 days ago
messygoop
Visited a new temple open house a few years ago. I irritated them by stopping in front of each temple door to read the signs. The temple workers have a dedicated break room where they can eat brown bag lunches. It is not available for temple recommended patrons. I asked them.
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5 days ago
messygoop
NG The great advantage of an organization using file access curriculum is the ability to quickly block access, change and make improvements without people catching on that changes have been made. The JW organization also does this from the ex JW podcasts that I occasionally indulge. Both organizations are saving mega bucks in printing costs.
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7 days ago
messygoop
Except the church requires an electronic device to read scriptures members to access church materials. It's not 1995 anymore when members would follow a lesson in the church published lesson manual.
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22 days ago
messygoop
I watched the story of this mission on another podcast. The synopsis: An elder soon realized that the bulk of his mission was filled with elders and sisters who were experiencing mental disorders. One of the elders suffered some sort of schizophrenic or bipolar disorder. The elder in question was armed with knives and swords and "attacked/stabbed" various companions. The MP knew full
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23 days ago
messygoop
No, there's absolutely no room for conservative members in the church. President Oaks has said that on multiple occasions.
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23 days ago
messygoop
He just showed up for the Syracuse temple dedication. Wendy was wheeling him around.
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24 days ago
messygoop
While I will not argue the point that Mormon temples have nice grounds and flora. However, their big selling point is having a place where non members can come to enjoy the outdoor temple grounds. It is not a public space or park. Want to picnic? No way! Try spreading out a small blanket or a picnic backet. You will be told that it's not allowed. Knowing how my church leaders would not stop
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29 days ago
messygoop
beloved prophet Apparently, Nelson insists on this when being addressed by church members.
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4 weeks ago
messygoop
This isn't about me as the apostate son. My mom is upset with church leaders. Leaders recently met with the stake "Older Singles Group" which my mom participates as a widow. They have limited monthly single activities: linger longer potlucks every month after fast and testimony meetings, occasional Sunday evening firesides and guest family home evenings. Some of the FHE meetings are
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4 weeks ago
messygoop
Members are still being told that they need to do more; perform more church service, give more time and money to the church. It's never enough for church leaders! My elderly mom attends every month with a group of sisters. Sometimes they attend (as a group) twice a month, which is pretty damn good. Heck, I couldn't stomach going to the temple. When I was part of the ward clerk posse, I atte
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5 weeks ago
messygoop
How is it possible that an ordinary object has been respected and not stolen or vandalized? This belt allegedly has been to 42 different missions. Where were these people when I served a church mission? I had companions pilfer my belongings. I had other missionaries come to the apartment and rummage through my belongings. It was common for "visiting elders" to find the apartment m
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5 weeks ago
messygoop
I'm just curious as to why we don't hear from Bednar on this one. I mean he spouts off on everything else. I'm a guy and I experienced nothing but heat rashes from wearing them. I had lots of skin rashes. My BBQ tale. My bottom garments sagged below the knee or knee length shorts. Some embers from the BBQ landed on the lowest part. I didn't notice until they burned to my skin. Got a sco
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5 weeks ago
messygoop
That was crazy.
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5 weeks ago
messygoop
NG, I wasn't present for the entire Mormon vs JW showdown even though it was taking place at the front door of my apartment. So to be fair to both sides, I don't want to attempt to replicate a dialogue which may not be accurate. I know that the visiting elders (district leaders) were arguing over paradise, heaven, death, and resurrection. I ended up accepting their literature like "Why Mo
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5 weeks ago
messygoop
Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Frustrating story. You can't win, right? > > I know the type. I had one senior that while > tracting walked like he was in an olympic speed > walking race. I actually got severe shin splints > trying to keep up. One day I just quit and walked > at a normal pace. When he realized he
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
A quick story about me being paired up with a newly minted district leader. I had been out on a church mission for nearly 19 months. This greenie had been a missionary for about 5 months. He wasn't even a Spanish speaking one because the church couldn't spare any to be sent my area. My mission president was wooed by him, I was not. Part of missionary life is going on splits with other missiona
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
A talk involves reading the latest General Conference talks. Sacrament Meeting is pretty boring.
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6 weeks ago
messygoop
I was 9. My Mormon nuclear family fell apart as several siblings stopped attending church. A gracious primary teacher taught a lesson on Eternal Families. She let me know that my family would never be together forever unless my rogue siblings returned to attend the Mormon church. Later my father had it out with the bishop and became disaffected. I was counseled to stop associating with him. My
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7 weeks ago
messygoop
A sister in my ward was without her right arm. She routinely partook of the sacrament with her left hand. No one ever gave her any grief over it.
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