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Gordon B. Stinky
How about spend eternity NOT being Mormon?
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3 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
So, I know about the whole "fence sitting" thing and winding up with the curse of cain if you weren't "valiant" in the preexistence. But does the impact of your behavior and "valiancy" in the preexistence extend beyond that? I vaguely remember people talking about it also affecting whether you're BiC, for example, and otherwise impacting the sort of fam
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3 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
I watched a movie named "Soul" the other day with my daughters. It seemed sort of "pre-existency" to me, so I searched and sure enough it came up under that topic. But what surprised me was the the show The Good Place did too (at least for Mormon theology). We binged watched that whole series a couple months ago, and it didn't strike me that way (but perhaps I don't know enoug
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3 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Jello and funeral taters
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3 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Hehehe
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3 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Yes, it's a bit like the old adage about truly innocent men not running down the street protesting their innocence. Of course, Joseph Smith was far from an innocent man. Same goes for Brigham Young.
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3 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Now that you're in the Moridor, you're getting full-strength, unadulterated Mormonism. There's no substance to it. It's all about conformity. And the speakers you describe are simply making it clear that they conform with no ifs, ands or buts. It sounds like where you came from, people tried to imbue it with a little more meaning. But there's no point in Utah. It's all meaningless. They just
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4 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Chapel schmapel! They’re not gonna let you clean toilets. So there...
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6 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
I've been dreading the thought of my TBM brother claiming he's seen my late wife in some McTemple (they hit them wherever they travel, like Hard Rock Cafés, and other tourist traps). Fortunately, I think he knows better, and, even more fortunately, I seldom hear from him.
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6 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
That's terrible. I'm sorry you experienced those lies and disappointment.
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6 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
I’m not catholic, and never been a Priest, of course, but I would agree that being married and/or having kids would probably make them better informed by experience to perform their priestly duties. For example, I wasn’t a father until my forties, but I thought I understood kids simply from having been one. That’s the same baseline every adult has, but I can say with certainty that the expe
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6 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Sad but true. What was that old joke (“joke”)? That Twinkies are so loaded with preservatives that kids can eat Twinkies that are older than they are!
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6 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
It’s almost a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you build it they will come. Land value in the area goes up, and TSCC will sell it to you.
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7 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
I was thinking about this the other day too. They believe that God has the power to create the whole world, and Jesus spent time on earth owning little more than the robe on his back and the sandals on his feet, and he has the power to return to earth, but that he'll need a little "start up" money when he does... to the tune of $100 billion! (Are there any critical thinkers left in
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7 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
This is what I was thinking. Between his garmies and some priesthood blessings, he's got nothing to worry about, right?
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7 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Missionaries called to the planet Kronos might be a good comedy! (btw, I had to look up what planet the Klingons come from--I'm not a trekkie.)
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7 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Agreed. And celibacy itself isn't really the issue (priests can fool around with consenting adults all they like, as far as I'm concerned). Molesting children is the issue, and allowing priests to marry isn't likely to impact that problem in a significant way. Someone who would molest a child isn't necessarily going to stop just because he CAN get married, or even if he IS (unfortunately, man
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9 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
My first thought was that they’re worthless and don’t even belong in a thrift shop, but then I remembered the recent toilet paper shortage... ;)
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10 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
The other day there was some discussion of the more negative abusive and authoritarian behaviors in various churches being variations on a theme. I can't find the thread to post this comment in, but I came across this video (I guess YouTube really does know what we're watching) about a different church purging large numbers of members in Canada by excommunication. For the most part, their "c
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13 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Thanks. I’m gonna respond to these, because I want to point out their undeniable hypocrisy. And then I’ll go back to ignoring.
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13 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Yes, they’re all pretty wretched, but my half-sister is especially so. It’s all narcissism, gaslighting, triangulation, etc, pretty much all the time.
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13 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
They all have multiple emails. My half sister might just create more. When we blocked her on Facebook, it enraged her, and she actually went into my dad’s account and started sending us both hateful messages. It was shocking for a minute until I realized what had happened.
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13 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Yeah! They maintain a collective family fiction that I must be unhappy and miserable, and that’s why I stay away. The reality is that they make me miserable, so I stay away. And I’m happier that way.
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15 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
After shunning us for 7 years, my TBM brother deigned to include me on a "family" email a couple days ago in which he announced where he "may" be transferred next year, and that he's looking forward to family visits. So, Cog Dis #1: I don't even know where he is NOW. Because he didn't tell me. Because he's shunning me. So why tell me where he MIGHT go next YEAR?
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15 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
All the identified people seem to say, “I didn’t do any damage.” Ok, but even so, you’re still not supposed to be in there. And the dude from Idaho says he saw an open door and walked in. There’re photos of him dangling from the gallery and dropping into the chamber. That’s not exactly how one strolls nonchalantly in.
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16 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Lot's Wife Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You often make apt points about Mormonism, perhaps > a result of familiarity with kindred movements. > > Yes, Mormonism is a variation on a theme. The > power structure is towards the extreme end of the > spectrum and so is the intergenerational > continuity. But one of the nasty things abo
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16 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Shouldn’t tithing on $300 million be $30 million? TSCC was robbed too! ;)
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17 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Yep. I didn’t grow up in the Morg, but other cults and authoritarian churches have similar problems.
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17 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Romney is a shameless, flip flopping opportunist. Edited to add: I’m not an exMormmon. I’m a neverMo.
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18 days ago
Gordon B. Stinky
Thanks! Great link. It's hard to deny the wacky MORmON beliefs when they're in video by a proud MORmON LARPER!
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