..and asked them if the church needed permission to make these changes and if they asked for permission. will be interesting to see what they say, if they respond.
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aha! thanks, i found it: http://media.ldscdn.org/pdf/lds-magazines/ensign-december-2011/2011-12-18-the-condescension-of-jesus-christ-eng.pdf
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ensign december 2011 uses a Bloch painting "the resurrection", but removes the angels' wings, clothes their bare shoulders and skin behind their arms: http://www.dovesandserpents.org/wp/2012/05/on-immodest-angels/ it is talking about this article: The Condescension of Jesus Christ BY DAVID L. FRISCHKNECHT Curriculum Department http://www.lds.org/ensign/2011/12/the-condescension-
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@weeder, is this the guy? http://www.et.byu.edu/sites/default/files/imagecache/directory/Parkinson%2C%20Alan_0752.jpg http://www.et.byu.edu/faculty-and-staff/directory
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did you see the will ferrell as james lipton sketch? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BwcCHyidMk
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i personally think this is a little disturbing that the church has people on the inside of the most powerful information company in the world, google: http://cpms.byu.edu/danny-young-google-cvlc/ "but i'm probably just bein' a nervous nelly..."
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but it only mentions huntsman: http://www.et.byu.edu/college-convocation-engineering/2012-04-20t000000 i guess the other guy wasn't important enough to be mentioned
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weeder, can you document what you said? how about a date for the graduation ceremony and/or the name of the speaker =) yes, guynoirprivateeye, this would be great if we could get that speaker to "testify" of this--especially since he seemed ticked about it =)
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http://unews.utah.edu/news_releases/college-of-law-announces-4-million-gift-for-new-building/ wonder where the money came from? is the church prioritizing building of law buildings over temples now? norway still doesn't have a temple. i'm sure you could build a decent super-mini-temple here for that much money. or how about a bigger one in a really poor country? or how about just helping poor
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on the wikipedia page for baptism for the dead it says: "Those who practice this rite view baptism as an indispensable requirement to enter the Kingdom of God, and thus practice Baptism for the Dead to give those who have died without ever having had the opportunity to receive baptism the opportunity to receive it by proxy; it is taught by the LDS Church that those who have died may choose
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are there any legal concerns/risks for posting screenshots of temple records from new.familysearch.org online, e.g. in flickr, to document who church members have submitted for baptism, etc.?
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i've never of anyone actually claiming something like raising people from the dead. how could we verify the truth of this story? and how does he define "dead"?
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thanks for the tip =) 8 Sep, 1890 - Apostle John Henry Smith preaches from the pulput that "married people who indulge their passions for any other purpose than to beget children, really comitted adultery." http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon036.htm
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Spencer W. Kimball, Conference Report, April 1967, pp. 64-67 http://scriptures.byu.edu/gettalk.php?ID=1543 " How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Once rooted, it sticks and grows—a leaf, a branch, a plant. It never starts mature and full grown. It is always transplanted an infant. Nor does immorality begin in adultery or perversio
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and in his talk he infers that masturbation is a *major* moral problem, yet those who don't do it are "rare". " I am sorry to tell you that there are men in high places who have some fairly major moral problems, even as youth have the same problems. We shouldn't have a problem with masturbation. I know one fine father who interviewed his 11-year-old son and he said, " Son,
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and instead i should have used N number of prepubescent girls / T total number of wives. so let's say age 20 and under (taking steve's quote into consideration: "Age of eligibility for women in Joseph Smith’s time-frame would start at a minimum of 19-and-a-half years old."). Fanny Alger, 16 Zina Huntington Jacobs, 20 Sarah Ann Whitney, 17 Flora Ann Woodworth, 16 Emily Dow Partr
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i was arguing that joseph smith, wasn't technically/medically a pedophile: http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,262342 at least based on the definition: " As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent child
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http://packham.n4m.org/endow31.htm i just skimmed through this and noticed a couple of things: * here it is written "Pale. Hale. Hale". where did the "pay lay ale" thing come from then? * " LAW OF CHASTITY FOR MEN "You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will not have sexual intercourse with any of the opposite
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recently on the exmo yahoo mailing list, we were talking about PBs and i shared my story about how i felt that PBs, in some ways, actually take away our free agency because they're treated as prophecy. my wife's PB said she would have sons and daughters. we had 4 boys, then a year later we quit the church (mostly for other reasons though). kim told a story about someone she knows whose PB also
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickleus/6776754354/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_polygamy#Plural_marriages_after_1890
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just got a fb message from the exmo psychology professor who helped me out alot during my exit, that a super tbm family who we both know very well in one of the largest wards in norway left the church this last fall =) the snowball is gaining momentum and increasing in size =)
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they havent heard anything from the church about gay marriage legislation in WA. the church is probably taking a low profile so as not to damage mitt romney's campaign...or the mormon version of YHWH has simply given up.. ;)
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so there's nothing to be afraid of =) and yes the church "leaders" are masters of rhetoric and manipulation. read about their registered trademark product "HeartSell": "strategic emotional advertising that stimulates response." do you think they use this on the members too? =) http://www.bonneville.com/?nid=32 get out of the scam before you let them talk you
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and what you say is true: "those same people will be the first ones to shun his valiant soul if he screws up in any way" "But can I make this stop?" just call this lady or send her an email (or a notecard) and tell her how you feel
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