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6 years ago
pollythinks
Posted by: cl2: "when I found out my boyfriend/ex was gay before we married, he had been very active sexually with other men....after we married in 1984, he cheated many times. "He started cheating 2-1/2 years in the marriage and I didn't find out until 5 years later. I immediately went inactive. (he) would go to bishopric temple night with the other men and their wives. He is still
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Sure. Lots. Starting with my Visiting Teacher, and jumping to the owner of my local 'poorboy' sandwich shop. (And in-between, ran into an old--male--friend at my local pharmacy a day or two ago, with my son.) Also, one of my best female friends played the piano at my husbands funeral (and plays jazz at local bars around town for a living). You should hear her play the piano at church--she gi
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6 years ago
pollythinks
This question is complex, so start with the basics. That is, your husband's feelings about how to raise the kids (being a TBM), vs. your now being an atheist. It strongly appears to me that the two of you need to, first, sit down together and discuss these differences, and (hopefully) come to agreement as to how to handle this situation with the children. That is, let the kids decide if
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Posted by: axeldc: "From the LDS Church's perspective, what is the difference between resignation and voluntary excommunication, which is what they used to call it." Your wording makes this a little difficult to respond. Anyone can resign at will, via words to the Bishop, or written letters. You don't have to get a response, just send a letter via the post office which requires
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Posted by: steve benson: 'Huw come "GA" doesn't have a middle initial?' (Giggle.) P
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6 years ago
pollythinks
From your post information, it is no wonder you are overwhelmed. Is it possible for you to search the internet for a "like kind" group in your area? You haven't said if you present as male or female, but it would seem to me that males can have an easier time of coping (maybe not as vulnerable as a female to being sexually abused)--But more to the point, perhaps your parents can ad
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Welcome home, to the land of being able from now on to make your own decisions. IMO, don't throw away letters and souvenirs for awhile, 'till you've really adjusted to the new life you will make for yourself. Dump the red-lettered BofM, and tell Aunt Leona it got lost somewhere in the shuffle of going home (or, that you gave it away to some very poor, needy person on your mission).
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Try taking night-classes at a local school, while your husband tends the children. Also, in my local area, their are a lot of adult classes to take. Sewing, upolistry, 'mommy and me' classes, learn a language (Spanish is big in So. Calif, as their are a lot of people who speak that language). Meet other adults similar to you, with similar interests. Volunteer on community committees, such
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6 years ago
pollythinks
IMO, forgiveness is dependent on the offender's acknowledgement of having done wrong, and then 'showing forth' repentance for having done so--at least a sincere apology. If the bad get the same reward (forgiveness) as the good, then justice is thwarted.
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Stake Public Affairs Commissioner. Met with leaders of other religious groups to communicate and share beliefs. One group (Jewish), didn't want to accept me (a female), and only did so when I brought my High Priest husband with me--they were very impressed with his title. I had church-printed calling cards with the church's logo on them, and also stationary, with my title, to hand out an
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Why Not? The BofM made it, regardless of its untrue contents. You drop or undo one thing, then the others become suspect?
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6 years ago
pollythinks
My husband, who was a WWII veteran, had a military person at his burial, and I took it that they were honoring him as this when the person folded the flag, and then gave it to me. (BTW, the person was a female, in uniform.) I took this folding routine as being a way to best fold the flag (as opposed to rolling it up, or some other awkward way). Folded, it lies flat for storing (if that is
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6 years ago
pollythinks
During my 'active' days, I drove to the L.A. temple to be a receptionist, four hours a day. I knew I couldn't stand being a traditional temple worker supervisor, watching all the stand-up, and sit down stuff, and helping get a patron's veil on correctly. There was a man who checked all the temple cards for people coming in, and me (a female), just sitting on the other side of the counter ('fo
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Posted by: Heartless: What about elderly widows? Are they assigned High Priests as home teachers? No male representatives of the church are allowed to visit young or elderly widows, as the church doesn't want any female to be able to claim (or sue) that some priesthood man sexually assaulted them. Some men come with their wives (happened once or twice with me). Also, two male missionarie
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6 years ago
pollythinks
My mother-in-law asked us over for dinner every Sunday, and every holiday. She asked us way ahead, so that I wouldn't have had time yet to be asked by my parents. Finally, I told my husband, "If your mother has her way, I would never get to see my family on any holiday, let alone on any Sunday". But then, my parents moved much farther away from us, which made it too unpractical to
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Both my great-grandparents (on mother's side and father's side), were members of the church during the J.Smith's era. So, as they obviously knew more than me about J.S.; let alone the fact of the Bk of Mormon, 'proved' to me that the church must be 'true'. But, when I quit hanging onto these presumed 'facts' and began studying on my own (after my marriage, and while raising our children).
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Don't care for fiction. Love biographies, and real life accounts. . Della Rees, "Angels Along the Way". . Natalie Cole, "Love Brought me Back". . Rosemary Clooney ("with Joan Bahthel"). ."Nun", Mary Gilligan Wong (really liked!). (true basic story) (from Catholic nun to non-believer.) (Also a movie.) ."90 Minutes in Heaven" (True e
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Earlier in my married life, there was something about male, Mormon insurance sales people, as being someone you could (supposedly) put your trust in, and should therefore buy the insurance policy he was trying to hustle you. One evening, a member of the Stake Presidency came over, uninvited, on a Sat. night--which was our usual 'going out to dinner night' (by putting the kids to bed and BB
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Posted by: numbersRus ( ): "...might want to wait until you have...your actual diploma and an official copy of your transcript with the degree posted. Hold off on the counseling thing until you're graduated as well lest word 'get around'". --- Above sounds good to me. What's your hurry? Take first things first, then you can make other important decisions. (You wouldn't be the f
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6 years ago
pollythinks
That he used to have so many widows in his ward and under his care, when he was a Bishop. I liked the guy. It seems to me that he got stuck and didn't know how to bow out gracefully (without leaving the church), when he got called to his 'higher' calling, which was to help out the then-current Church Presidency, who simply weren't able to take care of church affairs on their own (mostly due t
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Someone on this site asked me to report if the J.W. came to my door again. Well, they did---three of them (all female). I invited them in. What I disliked about the leader of the group, was that she kept trying to ask me leading questions, so that she could help me prove that what she said was true, per the bible. One of the question she asked, which did surprise me, was something to
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Try "Christian Science Monitor". I like it, but prefer to read my local news also, so get a Daily News paper for our area. (I also get the Deseret News to see the Church's view of world events.) Also, I get People magazine---lots of news about people (the stories, plus pictures, which are told in more length than local newspapers). It's expensive, so I ask for it as a b'day pr
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Mine was an intent study of the priesthood. The further I investigated--from the church's own books (including the K.J.Bible and Journal Of Discourses, 26? volumes)--the more the church's teaching re. the 'bestowal' of the pd on J.S. & O.C. became obvious nonsense. That is to say, their claims and teachings were nonsensical.
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Posted by: SEcular Priest ( ) Date: January 01, 2018 06:56PM Re: "Our Bishop Starts the Year Reading a Letter The Bishopric Wrote ...The second counselor spoke of the need for the restoration". P: Q: Restoration of what? "SEcular Priest: I did note a couple of things. He said when the apostles died off the Priesthood was taken from the earth." ---- P: As I
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Before anyone gets upset with my depiction of Armenians as rascals, please keep in mind I am speaking about those who give the general population a bad name. My son was personal friends with two, whom he taught--per their request--marshal skills. They both acknowledged how some Armenians are more than rascals, and can tend to be conniving skunks. Personally, I have seen two such at my door,
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Pinch your arm. It it hurts, you really exist.
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6 years ago
pollythinks
So sorry to learn you have BC. The good news---three very good friends of mine have undergone successful treatment for this condition, and I sincerely hope your treatment is also as effective. Best Wishes, P
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6 years ago
pollythinks
Yes, two Jehovah Witness' came again to my door. This time it was an Armenia mother(she had an accent) and her (approx.) twelve-year old son. We spoke awhile on my porch, and the woman gave me a small pamphlet to look over and said she would check back with me later, after I had had time to read it, to see what I thought. As I have time to share, I said that would be fine. I told her I was
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6 years ago
pollythinks
My condolences. To say 'things will get less painful as time passes' is, as it would appear, the only hope when devastation inters one's life. Thanks for sharing your grief with us--you couldn't get a more empathetic group, especially from those among us who have suffered likewise. Best Wishes. P
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6 years ago
pollythinks
My experience was at Christmas Eve dinner at my daughters. Two female missionaries were present. As a family, we talk fast and with jokes, so one has to keep up to know what is a joke, and what is serious. Nonetheless, one of the women valiantly tried to keep up with the talk. The happy end to this story (to me), was when my daughter's youngest told me he is going to join the Marines in
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