As a new convert I asked my Bishop who was a very cool guy, whether it was net or gross, and he said he wasn't going to get into that debate. So I just answered yes at the tithing conference so he could check the box. Everybody happy.
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Agree with Presley, opposing directions...if we have 'agency' why can't we choose to date and have relations with someone when we are over 40, divorced, free, and have no desire to ever marry again? Why are the same dating rules applied to 16 year olds as to 60 year olds? Where is my agency? But we are supposed to obey the Prophet who has been married for 50 years or more, usually.
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My last tithing conference, the Bishop told me proudly that the church was opening one new chapel per week in Africa. And I thought, if there ever is a continent NOT needing unlimited population growth due to lack of clean water and food, it is Africa! I think of this church as a bunch of old white men taking our money and doing what they want with it. Comparison: Baptist church I attend
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As a convert, I noticed the other converts... one lady only showed up when she wanted the Missionaries to help her move (time and again) others were heavy smokers, jobless, car-less, seemed to be broken, lonely, etc. I compared myself--is this who I am? And yeah, the Missionary who Baptized me was gorgeous, as you say Elder Glory" ...did that influence me? Ouch, honesty hu
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I am so happy I have found all of you here on this forum. Tomorrow will be my first Sunday that I won't go (one-year LDS convert, now quitting). I am kind of scared that I will go back even though I decided not to. I was only in a year and it's hard to quit. I can't imagine what you life-long members went through to get out. Reading your thoughts and experiences has strengthened my re
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Done and Done, I think you would be great to talk to at a party! And you're right, be yourself, say what you want, it will be more interesting for everyone. So glad you are no longer terrified. Party ON!!! :) :) :)
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Oh My Gosh Thank you ALL for sharing! (I was a convert of one year, now quitting, never did Temple) Are you seriously telling me you go to the Temple and volunteers there put their hands on your privates? Even the women? Do they wear gloves? Do they change them between each person or just pass along germs and disease from one to another? And, this is the experience we are to aspire to
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Be brave. Be strong. I agree with Mother who Knows, your sexuality is your business, I wouldn't talk about it. Just stop going. I went a few times as a new convert. The teacher was fat and ughly and didn't appreciate an attractive female joining her class, and made sure to exclude me from the mailings about class times and cancellations. After asking a couple times to be added to the mai
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Hi In the Snow, I am an introvert and it took me a long time to stop forcing myself to socialize and to meet expectations of the society at large to do so. Being expected to socialize can make us introverts really angry and frustrated. You may also be an "avoidant' where you need a lot of space and the amount of reassurance most people require annoys you. Have you read "Quiet&
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Praydude, thanks for the laugh!!! I went here in the Deep South and it is not only F&T but EVERY speaker, the stake presidents, speakers in regular weekly meetings, all of them, that cry about the Atonement. It seemed like it was the only thing that was allowed to talk about.
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Messygoop! THANK YOU for the laugh! hahahahahahah
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Thank you Wally for explaining more than a year of Sunday School Gospel Principles class did. I would expect churches to treat married and unmarried people equally and not reserve heaven only for people who are married.. I would expect churches to pay taxes, since they are in the country, benefit from its roads and bridges and fire departments and police, just like everyone who pays taxes d
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Her outfits aren't "professional" (blazer/blouse/skirt), they are more like 'evening' attire or 'date' attire which are sexy. I imagine her station has let her know they want more of 'evening' attire and not 'college professor' attire and maybe it helps ratings. She looks attractive and sexy but not academic. I think the theory is that women are devaluing themselves by dressing se
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Aha. I wondered if they had changed their mind about everything I studied for the year. I had heard about the crop rotation, thanks for the tip!!!
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Lowpriest, I think you have discovered the formula for a happy marriage, I was reading something that the happiest marriages are those that *don't* seek to resolve all differences, just look the other way! For years! I do think the suggestion to let the wife pay and do tithing settlements is a good one! Make sure there are a lot of shopping malls between your house and where she has to g
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Ha! I actually asked the Gospel Principles class teacher--should I be in Primary? (I am a grown woman) because the classes on the fairy tales were so incomprehensible to me.... I've never sat in classes so long and understood so little...
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The strangest thing in my year of attending LDS was that you had to be married to get into the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom (no matter how much money you tithed) yet there were unmarried people in the church. Wouldn't you at that point, go find a church to give your money to that would at least PROMISE you heaven and god and all the rest of it, regardless of your single state? (PS
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I went to LDS for around a year. Quitting now. I always wondered, what's with all the crying? Is it something everyone is supposed to do--get up there in chapel and sob about the Atonement? I've never seen so many people cry in my life. I tried two churches at once, the Baptist, and the LDS, and Baptist sermons would talk about real-life problems and lessons which could apply in daily li
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I've been in the church for around a year (now quitting). I did take the Sunday School Gospel Principles class and vaguely enjoyed listening to the fairy tales mostly since the teacher was really good-looking. Now there is a new book--no more Gospel Principles, called "Come, Follow Me" and as far as I can tell it's not BoM at all. Seems to be a study guide to the Bible... So why
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What disillusioned me was that there will no longer be two classes, one for beginners, and one (Doctrine) advanced, just one class for everyone, where the beginners will be totally lost and overwhelmed. Not even pretending to teach the basics. Obvious to me they don't care about keeping any converts with this move.
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Hi Cheryl, Wow thank you for the info. You are exactly right about the kind of person, also, that's me, eager to please, dodging any confrontation. If they push me I will just have to stand up for myself and consider learning to say no all a package of the other things I have learned in this year of being in LDS....bad things, disappointing things, confusing things. Thank you for respondin
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Wally and GNPE, THANK YOU for the laughs....hahahha! Wanting to avoid brownies...BAP..... Great stuff here!!!
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Babylon: Your words: "Mormonism is like a magnet for broken people. It lures them in and messes them up more." True for me!!! I was a little lonely and thinking maybe a church, with nice people and fun activities, would be good in my life. After regularly attending and being baptized, during this year I met no one to be friends with, was jerked around by a guy, and am out a
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Bamboozled, There is no singles ward in my state, there is just one ward with a bunch of single women with kids, most in their 30's and 40's, mostly very overweight, and a few like me, no kids, attractive and slender, and a 19-yr-old girl with whom all guys flirt. There are only two single guys in my ward, one is mid-thirties and trying to date the 19-yr-old, and the 50 year old one who fli
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Thank you for your interesting insight.
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Amyjo, thank you for your welcome! It is very nice to be on this board as opposed to TSCC where I was never wanted nor valued, being a single woman.
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Thank you so much, everyone, for your insights. I really had no idea. I think there should be warnings before you accept being baptized, the Missionaries and everyone seem so shiny and nice, yet all this is underneath. I can't stand up to anyone in person, really, so talking to the Bishop is out, I don't have kids and my parents and grands are all dead, so I don't think they can find me, no
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Wow! Thanks for the info, everyone! Scary!!! I guess I will have to formally resign. I don't want to be tracked down!!! Thank you so much for the insight. I wish I had found this forum before being talked into joining and being baptized. Darn it.
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Thank you so much for the help! Since I have a 'calling' I have to tell them something and I figured saying I was moving would let me kind of escape.... If they come I can just never answer the door, right?
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Hello, I was wondering if you can just write the Bishop you are moving due to a job, and then just never give a new address, or do you really have to do certified letters requesting removal from the list of members? I am just wanting to quietly stop going..... Thanks for any advice.
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