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6 years ago
ren
Burned my copy with my name engraved on it. I recycled the other copies I had lying around.
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6 years ago
ren
Hah, if I brought home a girl it'd also probably end badly (partly because I'm a lesbian, which they're aware of but not very comfortable with).
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6 years ago
ren
My mother actually did make one comment about drinking, but it was just to say that I'm not allowed to drink in the house. Based off of that, my parents really are more concerned with house rules than with my own safety, but that's not surprising to me. My parents and I generally don't talk about anything personal. Also thanks for the advice on what is/isn't normal. College parties are defi
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6 years ago
ren
Thanks for the advice. I've been drinking for several years now, so I know my limits pretty well, but I still push them nearly every time I drink. I have some issues with impulse control, which obviously doesn't mix well with alcohol. And, to be perfectly honest, I enjoy getting blackout drunk (but I understand that it's damaging and dangerous). Once I transfer I plan on visiting a college
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6 years ago
ren
I definitely need to improve my pacing, but otherwise I think it's fine. I only drink once every couple of weeks, I don't drink life-threatening amounts, and I never do multiple drugs at once. I have some obvious impulse control problems and I'll try to be more cautious in the future, though.
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6 years ago
ren
No need to worry about drinking and driving. I may drink too much sometimes, but I wouldn't dare drink and drive.
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6 years ago
ren
I'm currently at home for another year, until I can transfer from community college to a four year university. I came home at 3:00 in the morning yesterday and accidentally left a bottle of tequila next to my bed, and I think a few days before that my mother saw a bottle of rum in my closet. It seems like my TBM parents are taking the "see no evil" approach and turning a blind eye. Sh
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6 years ago
ren
Endless amount of respect for her. At twelve I was pretending to be straight, but I came out as a lesbian a year and a half ago, when I was eighteen. It's sad that lesbians (along with other LGBT individuals in the church) have to make such an active effort to validate themselves as worthy of love.
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6 years ago
ren
anonuk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Of course the womb is involved, whether the act > of sex results in pregnancy or not - even if a > prophylactic is used. > Hint: most schoolkids of middle school age are > taught this as part of the curriculum, it is how > babies are made. You have 3, I would have thought > you understood t
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6 years ago
ren
True, although he seemed sincere (e.g. acting shy around me, telling me I'm pretty, always asking to join my group for labs, saying I'm smart, etc). If he is closeted in any way then I hope he comes to terms with it, of course.
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6 years ago
ren
I never asked for his age, but I'd guess he's around 20. Sorry, I feel like I worded my post in a misleading way. I'm also a student at the moment. But I'll take your advice and keep my guard up around him.
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6 years ago
ren
I don't think he has anything to gain from being homophobic here, since I'm currently at a very liberal community college in California. His homophobia is probably taught rather from insecurity regarding his own sexual orientation, judging by how much he'd been flirting with me up our last conversation.
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6 years ago
ren
Strangely enough, he's an adamant atheist. I'm not really sure what his rationale for his bigotry is, not that it makes any difference. Definitely a "choose your battles" type of situation. If he does anything more antagonistic in the future - not that I expect him to - I can always report him to the college (or simply threaten to do so).
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6 years ago
ren
It's even sillier considering he had a crush on me up until I told him I'm a lesbian. Also when this came up I was using my spare time to help him edit an essay for another class, and it was interesting to see how quickly he switched from being friendly and grateful to wanting nothing to do with me.
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6 years ago
ren
From my experience, the church's attitudes can cause a skewed, desensitized perspective on what is/isn't homophobic. At what point does something cross the line separating personal opinion from bigotry or discrimination? I'm asking because a fellow student in one of my college courses said last week that he "doesn't like LGBT people," and I wasn't sure how to respond (aside from tel
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6 years ago
ren
To me, personally? The worst things - and fair warning, this is going to be a bit heavy - are probably the perfectionism, internalized homophobia, and recurrent feelings of failure. Being in the church, and especially attending BYU, left me with so many horrible experiences. Miscellaneous memories related to the church include crying into my arms during seminary as the teacher gave a Boyd K. P
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6 years ago
ren
I remember my BoM professor at BYU in summer of 2015 giving a lecture related to this (it was about Sherem and antichrists, which he treated synonymously with anything "anti-mormon"). It turns out I still have the powerpoint saved on my laptop! To quote it, "Antichrist simply means that it goes against the doctrine or teachings of Jesus Christ. Antichrist is anti-family, anti-fa
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6 years ago
ren
I was bullied a lot in elementary school (mostly teasing, and I remember being shoved around a couple times). I didn't really have friends and I was a little different, so I was an easy target. I think they were all just trying to seem cool and convince themselves that they were at the top of the classroom social hierarchy, although one time a complete stranger also pushed me to the ground.
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6 years ago
ren
I took a science foundations class (required for all students) at BYU-I a couple years ago. The professor taught evolution and also discussed how the church has shifted away from creationism.
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6 years ago
ren
Vegan here. I went vegetarian when I was 13 and vegan when I was 18, and got a lot of weird looks both times (although I stopped attending church at the same time I went vegan). The bishop's wife was very frustrated with me, since she organized lots of games and activities involving food (for instance, bingo with candies that had gelatin), and I'd opt out of them on moral grounds. There was ev
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6 years ago
ren
Mormon newsroom says that merging the Russia Vladivostok Mission with the Russia Novosibirsk Mission will " fewer volunteers to staff the combined mission." No other explanation is given, and the statement is pretty brief. Even if they claim the merge is just because of low staffing, that still doesn't sound like a very good reason from a PR-perspective.
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6 years ago
ren
Thanks for the advice! :) It is weird how accustomed mormons are to asking personal questions. With friends I can joke around, but anyone that I consider a friend is already aware of my situation and wouldn't need to ask. For acquaintances it's probably best to just answer directly and then change the subject, like you suggested.
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6 years ago
ren
No need to apologize!
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6 years ago
ren
Yes, in retrospect that would've been a good way to react. Something I'll keep in mind for next time!
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6 years ago
ren
My hair is dirty blonde, but I started to have more fun after I dyed it dark reddish-purple (the same day that I took my last final at BYU-I, before transferring). The dye has faded out now though, and I think I get hit on more often by guys when my hair is blonde (which is useless, since I'm a lesbian).
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6 years ago
ren
Yeah, without mormonism the conversation had no substance. She could've asked about college, but instead she said I had "gotten so pretty" and then left. The compliment didn't feel very genuine, and I think she was being nice to guilt me into going to church (which obviously isn't going to work).
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6 years ago
ren
That does sound really satisfying! Glad you responded so directly. The next time I run into someone from church I'll be more forward and see how it goes! The interaction would probably be uncomfortable for them either way, so I may as well get some satisfaction out of it.
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6 years ago
ren
Thanks for the advice! I do already know those guidelines, but I've mostly learned from trial/error, friends, and Google, since no one else in my family drinks. From my experience my tolerance is pretty average, I think. Last weekend I just made the mistake of starting to take shots after I had already had three bottles of hard cider, and on Sunday I woke up with a terrible hangover. I'm a
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6 years ago
ren
Ha, that's a good suggestion!
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6 years ago
ren
Thanks - you're right. At the very least, I'll be transferring in a little over a year to a different college in a city about five or six hours away, where there won't be anyone that recognizes me from church.
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