To reinforce caedmon's post: the LDS church wants to use the scrolls as proof of its superior understanding of God's intervention- but everything in the scrolls undermines everything the LDS church teaches or has ever taught.
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There have been several versions of the Articles of Faith, some with more and some with fewer than 13. Until recently, they were never considered as binding or definitive in the least, or even official. They were merely representative lists and general outlines of LDS teachings.
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Dear Mitt: successs can also appparently come from being an incredibly wealthy, sociopathic capitalist pig.
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So Mittens spoke about obstacles? Like how many did he have in his life? Maybe the obstacle of having to actually touch dirt once, when he got on the ground to bully the "gay" kid?????
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Let's be clear on this. It is subtle. Church leaders have no gripe with women who work. What they fear (yes, that is the right word) is women who *want* to work. As I said, there is a subtle but fundamental difference. What they do not want is women who are independent, who think for themselves, and who see absolutely no need to be under their control. That scares the crap out of them, and they r
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To emphasize what other posters have said: this is the exact definition of bullying. It is bullying. Let me repeat: IT IS BULLYING, AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. DO NOT RETALIATE. DO NOT HIT BACK. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STOP IT IS FOR AN ADULT TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU WERE MISTREATED. THAT CAN TAKE A LIFETIME. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT. YOU DID NOTHING TO PROVOKE IT. LEAVE NOW. IF YOU
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CA girl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mormon culture may not encourage abuse but it certainly > provides the right elements for it to fester and > grow. They teach a sense of entitlement, the idea > that they are superior and chosen and the thought > that appearances are all that really matter. Just a side note: they are also taugh
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To return to the original topic: Yes, being a Mormon is a lot like MK. You can never be good enough; they own you; and everything you say and do is for the church, but never the other way around. Never say or do anything negative about the church or they will hang you out to dry. And so on.
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summer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's in "A Treasured Testament" by Russell M. > Nelson, The Ensign, July, 1993. Nelson is quoting > an address given by David Whitmer in 1887. > > “Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a > hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it > closely around his face to exclude the ligh
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Good for you. When my wife dies (should be a long time from now, barring accidents), I see no need to even inform "my" bishop, even though the current one lives right next door. BTW, I am one of the small but (hopefully) growing group who intends, when my children get married, to announce on the invitations that LDS members holding current temple recommends will be politely invited
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Up until 1992 or so, Gog and Magog was world communism. It was an absolute fact with no need to come up with any other explanation. Suddenly it wasn't world communism after all, and all those who said it was were speaking as men and not as prophets at the time. Now it is world wide Islam. It is an absolute fact with no need to come up with any other explanation.
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I am trying to get names of just who are the "Utah officials" who, according to the news media, are actually petitioning the US Supreme Court to block the SSM movement. Does anybody have their names/contact info? They are presumably public servants, and as such should have their information available to the public.
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verilyverily Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If they are not carrying a gun, who is walking in > public with whoever they are walking with is NOT > YOUR BUSINESS. The reasons for them (any two or > more people) walking together is their business > not yours. End of story! The sad fact is that in Utah, carrying a gun is much more acceptable
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The use of the word "Daughters" is telling. Women in TSCC are never to grow up. They are always to remain infantile.
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IMO: it is time for a little deconstruction. The main goal of church leaders is to make women subservient to men from start to finish. They are not opposed to women who work. Rather, they are opposed to women who want to work, because that is a direct challenge to the TBM male's wish to control women. Their main interest is on making women feel their ultimate fulfilment in life is to pamper the d
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Just a bit of trivia: Some, at least, of the participants in the old Eleusinian mysteries were promised that participation in said rites would seal them up as husbands and wives in the next life.
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IMO: you will never hear anything official from the cult. That's now how it works. They will let their lackeys do the job. There will be some sort of Conference talk about how the church "invites" people of all persuasions to participate in the wonderful work of the Restoration(TM). The real message is all hidden away. They will give plum ecclesiastical promotions, such as mission or ar
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To repeat an earlier post: why do we need the churches when it comes to marriage? Marriage is a social contract. Marriage is not a divine ritual. There are historical reasons, but here in Utah it is simply a case of the dominant church insisting that it be allowed to control everything. Thank you.
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It sounds to me like a perfect recipe for outright violence. It is time to stand up for your rights and not let them push you around any more.
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left4good Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > They are on a campaign > to be seen as kinder, gentler, and more welcoming > to GLBT people. > The main problem, of course, is that they want to be seen as kinder/gentler without actually being kinder and gentler.
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Mateo Pastor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I got gay married a year ago in my country > (Belgium) which has had gay marriage for more than > ten years. > > All my friends in their twenties, straight or gay, > congratulated us. So did many straight people who > were much older, including a ninety-year-old > neighbour who shared o
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We have a figurine of a bare-headed Santa Claus worshiping the Christ Child. That will soon mysteriously disappear into the trash.
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Now that racism has been openly acknowledged, how long will it take before TSCC openly acknowledges that much of its current "doctrine" is motivated by other non-revealed "isms"? I am thinking specifically of the blatant sexism that has been the underlying basis for most of Mormonism. Any thoughts?
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3X (NLI) Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > mormonism is, plain and simple, a pseudo-religion. You bring up what I feel is a fundamental question: what constitutes a real religion? I don't mean the name of an alternative church, but rather the attributes and criteria of an organization that would qualify it for the title of a religion. As far as limiti
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To corroborate the comments by Tupperwhere: Ask your Dad: what makes you think I have abandoned Jesus? Then get into some specifics, like public religious observances are abominations, and the main criterion for admission to heaven is kindness and tolerance (rather than secret handshakes), and so on. Make him give you examples of you not following these teachings. Throw the ball back in his
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munchybotaz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > n/t IMO, the main body issue Mormon women have is the firm doctrine that their bodies are not their own. Their bodies, in Mormonism, belong to their husbands. So the women can never be "good" (i.e., sexy) enough, and their whole purpose is to make babies to pass on the gene pool of their husbands. Tha
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Don't forget Immanuel Swedenborg and the whole Plan of Salvation thing.
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Per Carl Sagan, the phrase "the world's most accurate psychic" is like "the world's tallest dwarf". There are no psychics. Never have been, never will be. Period, full stop. That is not to say they are all frauds- some of them may really believe they have special powers, and are therefore merely delusional. But for anyone else to believe their claims is just plain stupid.
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How about "Tobacco is Like Love", by Tobias Hume, around 1570? Look it up.
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My favorite is the sectionon opposition in all things. I have never once met a mormon who understood this section. They fixate on the first line, and bastardize it to justify their persecution complex. Its real meaning- which anyone can discover by the arcane philosophical technique known as "reading the rest of it" -is the essence of Taoism- yin and yang and the rest. It is all about o
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