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10 years ago
slskipper
Rastafarianism is perfect, but the members are not. Catholicism is perfect, but the members are not. Scientology is perfect,but the members are not. EST is perfect, but the members are not. Isis worship is perfect, but the members are not. Communism is perfect, but the members are not. Nazism is perfect, but the members are not. Name me one of these that doesn't preach good t
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10 years ago
slskipper
Please, people. I don't mean to burst your bubble, but almost all of you have totally missed the point. I said that mainly to get your attention, but there is a method to my madness. It is this: what in the world does "saved" even mean? And don't try to dodge the question by moving the goalposts (as in, "accepted by God" or some such). In 2013, I think it is high time to re
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10 years ago
slskipper
Regarding Myth #3: there is evidence that at least some of the participants in the old Eleusinian mysteries belioeved that said participation would qualify them for eternal union with their spouses. But you are right in that the meaning of the "New and Everlasting Covenant" has been transformed into essentiuall the exact opposite of its original one. It was invented as a euphemism f
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10 years ago
slskipper
... And I'm a Mormon!
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10 years ago
slskipper
destiny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It used to be that a mission had anywhere from a > tenth to at most a fifth the amount of sisters as > elders. So there was a lot of interaction and all > the sisters were known and any that were semi-cute > got a lot of attention. > > When you have half a mission of sisters, they are > no
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10 years ago
slskipper
I believe the moon landing was a hoax while Bigfoot really exists. And I'm a Mormon. I believe the Roman Catholic Church is the whore of all the earth. And I'm a Mormon. I believe that psychology is a branch of witchcraft. And I'm a Mormon. I believe that academic caps and gowns are the robes of an apostate Priesthood. And I'm a Mormon. (The first one describes one of my
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10 years ago
slskipper
How can we ever forget the Sacred Plastic Grapes?
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10 years ago
slskipper
We have two children, both adopted. Our oldest, a boy, has ADHD/autism spectrum problems. The other, a girl, has achocdroplasia (dwarfism). The boy is by far the biggest challenge. Most adults are very sympathetic toward our daughter, and she has oodles of school friends. Our son, on the other hand, has very few friends. He he has personality issues that other people usually cannot grasp. He has
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10 years ago
slskipper
Since neither the Holy Spirit nor Satan actually exist,the question becomes one of learning how to make the correct decisions. And that takes a lifetime. There is no outside agency that will "reveal" it to you by any sort of Heavenly Inspiration. It's called Growing Up. How I wish we could get the old Greek deities back. They all made so much more sense. They didn't even pretend to h
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10 years ago
slskipper
I just posted my predictions on Postmormon.org. I willl sahre them here too: 100% chance that the saints will be told to keep paying tithing 90% chance that the womenfolk will be told to quitcherbitchin 0% chance that Thomas Monson will descirbe the conversation he had with God last week.
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10 years ago
slskipper
We need to remember why churches are granted tax-exempt status. It's to allow the churches to provide more money to the poor, thereby relieving the government of the burden. Pure and simple. It has nothing to do with promoting spirituality or a higher moral code. To the extent that the money is not used for charitable purposes a church forfeits its right to avoid paying taxes.
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10 years ago
slskipper
Going on a mission is so important for Mormons that any young man would be devastated by being denied thre opportunity. It is the gateway to erverything Mormonism values- acceptance by God, privileges of ecclesiastical advancement and, perhaps most importantly (especially if you are still young), access to desirable and willing females leading to marriage and a fulfilling family life. To outrigh
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10 years ago
slskipper
And to think I got ten minutes sandwiched between high councilors. Didn't I feel special.
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10 years ago
slskipper
I am reminded of a line from a story by Arthur C. Clarke, enititled (I think) "The Fountains of Paradise". In the story a visiting intielligent machine arrives at earth from the far reaches of the cosmos. People start asking it all sorts of questions, mainly about science stuff. One person changes the subject and asks it about God, to which the machine responds that in al its travels it
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10 years ago
slskipper
Is she part of the company that organizes the handcart treks?
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10 years ago
slskipper
It is indeed a Mormon thing. To the average mormon mind, God is found in current events. Current events are all about the run-up to Armageddon, which battle is all about validating Mormonism. Mormonism is all about validating each member's sense that he or she is the center of the Cosmos, which means that each member's psyche is based on them being the center of the struggle between Satan and God
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10 years ago
slskipper
Personally I am looking for a revival of the old Greek ways. The "gods" are not all powerful and certainly not all holy and righteous and good. They were reflections or embodiments of the unpredictability of life, rather like the Irish leprechauns before they got taken over by Hallmark and some breakfast cereal. Isn't it so much easier to "believe" (whatever that means) than t
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10 years ago
slskipper
Cheryl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Females were always descriminated against. Moms, > grandmas, aunties, and godmothers have always had > to sit down in the pew seats while "worthy" dads, > grandpas, uncles, and best friends were honored to > stand up front where dignitaries are honored. > > Those who sit in the pews at
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10 years ago
slskipper
I guess the thing I hated most as a Mormon teenager was church dances. It was hell for me (I'm a totally straight male, BTW). I had no idea how to converse with anybody, male or female. I danced a lot but that was all I could come up with to do there. Other people seemed sopmehow to come away from dances with some sort of relationship, but I never could figure it out. The problem is this: isn't t
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10 years ago
slskipper
Just a side historical note: Up until sometime in the 1980's (I am not sure of the exact time period) there was no rule as to who could participate in the circle for blessing babies. Non-Priesthood men (i.e., fthe fathers) were actually encouraged to join in, in the hopes that they would feel the camraderie and perhaps investigate a little further. Now there is a strict rule that only Priesthood
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10 years ago
slskipper
I think most of us are in the same boat you are. Biblebeltbetsy is compiling a treatise on depression among Mormons. I am sure she would love to hear from you.
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10 years ago
slskipper
Allow me.The Google translation doesn't quite get it right. The name of the blog is "About Mormonism". He is announcing the end of his blogging days. He explains: Today I received an email that was very disappointing. I was disappointed mainly because I wanted to approach someone to propose a project even more ambitious than this one, which project I am working on now. She misunde
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10 years ago
slskipper
We had three receptions. One was on the lawn outside the church, one was in my parents' back yard, and one was a barbecue in a park with our same-age friends. One of the saddest things I have ever witnessed in my life was a gym reception for which the groom was Italian. His mother came over from Italy the festivities. From Italy. For a reception in a gymnasium. With the usual Mormon reception
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10 years ago
slskipper
Wise counsel indeed. But how come it only applies to the underlings,and not to the leaders? Or am I mistaken? Something about the pigs eventually becoming indistinguishable from the humans on the farm...
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10 years ago
slskipper
IMO, there can never be a great Mormon body of literature because of what that means. Great literature involves conflicting viewpoints and the search for self. Think Huckleberry Finn or Les Miserables. The whole basis of Mormonism is that only one point of view is allowed,and the exploration of the self is evil because all meaning is to be found in the church. So, no- we will never see an LDS War
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10 years ago
slskipper
I too am suffering from what everybody calls depression, but which I feel is better described by words such as terminal frustration and despair. The way Mormonism is set up there is indeed no way anybody except the G-15 can ever be good enough- and the G-15 know this and like it. My therapist had me read a book which explained a great deal. It is called "The Drama of the Gifted Child".
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10 years ago
slskipper
By his own admission in general conference, neither has Dave Bednar.
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10 years ago
slskipper
When I was in 3rd or 4th grade I was one of a small group that horribly tormented a Catholic boy. Eventually he transferred to a different school.This was in Mormon Central- Orem, Utah. I have regretted it ever since.
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10 years ago
slskipper
This isn't quite what you wanted, but I was Dave Bednar's home teacher for a while at BYU (he was a grad student, I think)
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10 years ago
slskipper
Meanwhile, the boys are instructed to play basketball.
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