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you can't be guided by moral half measures and expect a full life, even if it makes Dehlin a folk hero.
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could not agree more. Delhin literally lives off making the cowardice and hesitation a genuine moral position. He tried it. He was willing to stay after finding out it was racist, chauvinistic, exploitative falsehoods...as long as he got to to cash in on it.
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Two things that we need to always remember: Please remember that before Dehlin there were thousands of people, some who paid with their lives for leaving, remember the 19th wife, William Law, Steve Benson, Eliza Young, really too many to name. Please remember that Dehlin KNOW it was racist and chauvinistic and not true AND still wanted to stay as long as he got to run his business.
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Mormonism cannot exist in the light. They may try to create a suspension of reality and call it faith, they may denounce the internet, gas-light all day, and play the victim card. But those cards are worn out and cannot exist in the reality of DNA evidence, historical facts and heck, their own doctrine that is easily found in the phone that we call carry in our pocket. They will conti
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The united States of America is only second to Mexico in the amount of Spanish speakers. Yes, there are more Spanish speakers in the US than in Spain. Pretending that the US should only be English speaking is ridiculous, ignorant and short-sighted. I was in Aztek, New Mexico 2 months ago. An old Native American Man who has lived in the reservation his entire life and I talked for a while wh
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well sometimes they cant take a hint.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I don’t know why this board has become a training ground for white supremacists who think that if they are wordy, they will sound logical and their filth sophisticated it will be palatable ...and trolls that want to argue every point of everyone’s PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND OPINION. I know a disproportionate number of straight crazy folks, have been hit up for loans,
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Oh yes. I forget I get nude in a poncho with my mailman and discuss the eventual planet creation with the alarm salesman.
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thank you. To be honest it is the same songs they have been singing for 100 years, only this is the Joseph Smith translation.
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No. its not. in no other "slice" would complete strangers be forced to visit my house or tell me how to live my life.
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whoa easy there. I did not say race or gender. These are simply folks that I don't like for who they are not for their national origin, sex, etc if you don't want to hang out with people based on that, then you ARE a bigot.
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Self-important religious settings are a perfect set up for the giggles. My father was an altar boy in a catholic church growing up. This was a 18th century church and one of his duties was to light and swing a 30 lbs, ancient silver incense box. This was tied to a log chain on each end so two altar boys could walk and swing it solemnly. Then after the walkabout, they were to return to the area be
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One of the thousand things I don't miss about Mormonism is that I don't have to mingle with people who I would otherwise would never want to have any interaction. It is no secret that Mormonism has had a history of attracting people on the fringes of society. On my mission 90% of the people I baptized had notable mental, social or economic issues , the rest were forced into baptism or were no
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November 1984.Bogota Colombia. 1st ward. The bishop spends considerable effort gathering enough talent to have a ward talent fireside. My mother, to be supportive takes her children to the first row. There are 4 kids: 11,9, 6 and 3. A duo consisting of a mother and daughter 50 and 70+ perform an operatic version of "the prim roses". Off key falsettos ensue accompanied w
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TODAY. THE AARONIC PRIESTHOOD MANUAL SAYS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT DATE OR MARRY SOMEONE OF A DIFFERENT RACE. Not social background, not culture, RACE. TODAY. JUNE 19 2019, THE DOCTRINE IS RACISM.
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A lit of the new hymns as been leaked: The Book is allegorical, there ye have it! Away! previous doctrine, Away! There is booty all around, when in the MTC Did we say principle ancestors? Let us all press on, its only two hours now God is so strong, he can move unmovable doctrine MTC sister, hold yer tongue...and hold this Scatter falsehoods If we could hie in non-d
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Totally agree. My brother is a doctor and an atheist. He was a former know-it-all pompous Mormon who looked down at everyone. Now he is an atheist doing the same thing...with the additional back-patting from having figured it out. I tell him he may have changed choirs but he is still singing the same song.
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They are not doing themselves any favors sending them at 18. They have no manners, no experience, are addicted to cell phones, are irreverent, boorish, ignorant and boring.
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It has become painfully aware that 15-20 years ago that mission are for the missionary. They are easier and easier. Younger. Less structured. Less pressure. more areas. May people have disconnected the missionary memories they grew up with, developing relationships with these kids and now just see them as the referral personnel. These changes came about as the inactivity rate among
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We are almost there. Smith is less a less a foundational claim and more of a jane austen character. The propaganda is now that he loved his wife and the bible and people hated him for it. However... becuase he lived a relatively few years ago and the and the inerwebz, the practice of denial if wearing thin. MORG know that have to go mainstream and the next step, which they have t
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Haha, thank you. I love that, particularly B. Young, who was totally winging it, got 100% of everything wrong (decisions, timing, locations, doctrine, explanations, inventions) and immediately attributed it to it being a trial from God.
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You ex-mo ingrates refuse to give Mormonism credit for the amazing things the lord's church has brought to the world, in this, the last dispensation. Where would our knowledge of space and science be without the moon Quakers revelation? What sad songs would we sing if President Young had not chosen to make 2-wheel wagons, pulled by people to save money? Do you not know how many of u get ar
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Emerging science shows that our idea of race is almost as wrong as racism itself. The idea of race is the lowest common denominator for people to try to understand each other. It is tribalism at it's lowest form. Add to that the logical fallacies of the human mind and you soon realize that some people will always default to race as an explanation for behavior and cultural and ethnic character
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Haha, thank you. I find "Mormon fanciness" especially ridiculous. From their speaking mannerisms,mysticism to their "historical" claims to their absurd and ever-conflicting claims. But unto ye my brethren I say that I invoke a blessing that your loin may pass the veil and may ye get the very purest and very first of dibs on the polygamists women in heaven may not a single one
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 One of the many horrible things that I don't miss about church/conference is the "amen guitar solos". Let me explain. This is where a speaker is about to close his talk, but decides to go on with a riff on the "in the name of Jesus...amen" by adding a run on sentence as a mini-talk for 1-5 minutes. The master, the jimmy Hendrix of our amen solo is currently held by sextu
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Real story from my family this week: My mom's father, now in his 70's received some VA money in the amount of 20K. My little brother lost his job and is trying to save up for a down payment. So this moron donates 2k to the church in addition to his other 2k he gave for tithing on the money so the lord will bless my little brother in getting the money he needs. He called us to humble brag
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I've always wished that Mormon testimonies would close with "and that is how stupid I am" as in: "I think that I know what happened in a forest down by the river in 1834, without a doubt. I also live my life according to the eternal principles, that change all the time, that brothers and sisters is how stupid I am, amen" " Whenever I am presented with a challenge t
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This week's change of the change of the clarification needs to be clarified, with the facts included this time. As a background, the church, after establishing the clear channel of communication between god and men, makes edicts of doctrine that, as they have explained do not need to be preceded by "thus saith the lord" to be his word. When a prophet speaks, god has spoken. The think
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a couple of years back I was having a discussion on Joseph Smith being a polygamist with my mother in law, a devout social and historical mormon. She said Smith was not a polygamist becuase once her stake president in Wyoming said Smith was not and it was a filthy lie. Never mind she is smith "stock", a direct descendant of Hyrum. When I told her that is was a matter of fact an
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