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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Great news! Look at this as another positive step in recovering physically and mentally from Mormonism.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Thanks to all for the perspective. I need to be able to say to my friends and colleagues, 'see how my family and other Mormons treat me for leaving their cult??' I was honestly just going to wait to resign until we someday move (we have debated about moving out of CA), or until one of my parents passes away...which could be another 5-10 years. It took a lot of courage for me to resign wh
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
I submitted my resignation through that website yesterday. :-) It felt way more official.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
I know it is my dad who is sending them. And he lies about it. They stop by every couple of months. I also have a Mormon neighbor across the street that is in the bishopric. The mishies are at their house all the time. I know they need busy work because the days of door-to-door conversions are in the past. I don't want to be on their to-do list. I've encountered some nice ones, but also some r
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Thank you for mentioning that website. I filled it out. It felt more official than the email, especially since I had to sign it! I guess part of the anxiety is that I don't know who the bishop is. I don't know what he looks like. That is why the non-descript delivery guy could have been him. I do know the SP on a first name basis, though. I do know that my father is the ward clerk and tha
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
It's been 12 days since I resigned by email. I followed the instructions here on RfM. I added a sentence or two, but kept it brief and to the point. I specified that I did not want any further contact from anyone and to keep this matter discreet. Today I got a letter from LDS inc. in the mail. I was kind of excited when I saw it. But then when I opened it and see that the letter begins with
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
I was a child in the 80's and the 2nd coming topic was heavily emphasized, especially in FHE where our parents said we had to pay tithing so that we wouldn't be burned during the 2nd coming. They would laugh and call it 'fire insurance'. Talk about messed up. I too wonder if they are still promoting it as they did when I was young....
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
You did it because you felt guilty and obligated. You did it not knowing the secrets about the temple. That does not make you the bad guy.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Eh, it depends. I have relatives that live in Orem that are kind and non-threatening. Some other ones are the condescending, awful to be around type. On the other hand, I live in a strange microcosm of Mormons in CA and they are some of the worst I've ever had to deal with. My family members included. We used to live in a different part of CA and those Mormons were of the kind non-threat
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
They will find you no matter what. At least in my experience.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
This is an awful thought, but I don't think I'm going to be over it until my parents are no longer alive. Their current actions are CONSTANT triggers for me, as well as having to hear them talk about Mormonism in EVERY sentence, and having them put their religion on me all the time. It could be another 10+ years... I do have a nevermo spouse and I do what I want, but it's my GD parents.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Not sure if it's related to Mormonsism or if it's just her personality (I think it's both), but I kind of hate Mother's Day because of my own TBM mother. She expects a parade and for everyone to worship her and put her on a pedestal on Mother's Day. Nevermind that I'm a mother too. That is completely secondary. It makes me hate it. All I want from my own family is to have a nice breakfast t
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Leaving Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > According to Mormonism: > - If I pick the right one, then reject it, I'm > even more screwed than if I had just picked the > wrong one. This one infuriates me the most! Because of how my own family has treated me over it...and how they are going to treat me when they soon find out I resigned. Also,
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Interesting! I wonder why they still ask such an antiquated question. And um yea...how hypocritical. The church was founded on polygamous roots, yet they eventually had to denounce it to prove 'worthiness'.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Isn't one of the temple recommend interview questions something along the lines of, 'do you associate with apostates?' If this is true, then shouldn't all of my TBM family members lose their TRs? Because if they were to answer truthfully, the answer would be yes. Either that or they are in denial, or are lying through their teeth. My brother resigned years ago, and I resigned last week. Doesn'
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Just wondering... My dad converted at age 19. He is church-broke beyond belief and we are from CA, not Utah. He pays a lot of tithing. He's never had an 'important' calling, though. I'm wondering if that's because he's a convert. Does that still carry a stigma in Moism?
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
One of my sisters is an apostate like me, but is still trying to assert herself as such. She has struggled with some mental imbalances her whole life. Because of this my parents have always viewed her as an easy target for their bullying. A few days ago she had a serious surgery to remove a tumor (it went well and now she's recovering). My TBM mother was in Utah all week for Women's Conferen
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
They are definitely as taken in as my parents are, but (for example) my sister is all about supporting and promoting people like the 'tattooed mormon' and others like that. Her attitude is that of, 'see, we're normal and cool just like everyone else!' I've also walked into their house only to hear techno-versions of primary songs blasting on their stereo. My gut reaction was WTF? This isn't how I
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
My parents have doubled down like crazy for the cult lately (my mother even travelled from CA to go to Women's conference this week). In this case I believe my parents are getting so close to the end of their lives (turning 70 next year) that they are now scrambling and feeling afraid of not making it to the CK. And they will do whatever it takes, at whatever cost. They are baby boomers and t
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Mormons make hypocrites out of themselves with all of their self-imposed 'rules'. I thought they were supposed to avoid even 'the appearance of evil'....which most certainly would include carrying around a Starbucks drink (even if it is only a hot chocolate). I live in CA, but my crazy TBM sister and I went to Starbucks together one time to get their buy one, get one half price deal (or whate
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Yesterday I was home in the middle of the day. I work very part-time, as I have young ones at home. My nevermo husband was here working from home. I see a car pull up in front of my house with the tale-tell bike rack on the trunk. I see the 'men' in white shirts get out. I go back to what I was doing, vacuuming. I hear a bang on the door and then the doorbell and hubby comes out of his office and
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Another great and spacious building.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Road trip to Yellowstone!
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
I looked him up online and his house is blocks away from where I used to live. I just moved out of Citrus Heights a few years ago. Talk about creepy knowing that. Glad he's in custody...but damn he didn't get caught until age 72.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Thank you for finding a reference! My mother put up one of those posters in my bedroom (back in the 80's) of a teenage girl looking longingly at the temple. She was trying that conditioning on me when I was a child. Then when I broke free from tssc and got together with my nevermo boyfriend (now husband) she fired back at me with, "but you always dreamed of getting married in the temple!!&qu
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
So despicable. It makes me sad.
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Seriously?! Ick!
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
presleynfactsrock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh my.... will the next move be making TBM new > homes look like small temples? > Oh yuck that would be uber cultish! It seems like today's Mo's are trying realllly hard to be trendy while 'obedient'. The temple pics were sepia-toned with a nice dark frame around it. If it weren't for being a pictu
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
Such a tough situation. Knowing the mind of TBM women, the outlook is bleak. I admire you for having hope and a positive attitude about making it work, though. Afterall, you do love her. The thing is, if you were 20+ years into your marriage and shared children it might be different. My TBM parents have been married for 40+ years. If my dad suddenly decided to leave the church my mother would be
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6 years ago
bluebutterfly
From the article: “There is nothing inherently wrong about long hair or beards, any more than there is anything inherently wrong with possessing an empty liquor bottle. But a person with a beard or an empty liquor bottle is susceptible of being misunderstood.” This was apparently said by Oaks many years ago. What?!? What is the implication of men with beards? I get the empty liquor bot
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