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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
schrodingerscat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Family is forever, > Or until somebody wakes up to reality, then, to > hell with them!!! Exactly what I was going to post! Ha! It's so sad, though... I recently posted about how I don't feel like I fit in anywhere because I'm out and my family is in the cult. Ugh.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Cringe!
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I moved out at 18, while simultaneously 'quitting' Mormonism. I literally felt like I had to escape. My best friend at the time was going through something similar. She moved out and into her boyfriend's parent's house. I moved out and in with my boyfriend. I remember how vile we were treated by our families, especially right after moving out. I remember talking to my friend on the phone and s
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I bet you were felt up a time or too as well...you know, the garmie check. I never experienced that because I didn't go through the temple of doom, but I can clearly look back and remember seeing the bishop always touching people's shoulders and now I know why. Cringe.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
My parents told us as kids that paying our tithing was our 'fire insurance' so that we might not perish at the 2nd coming.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Sounds like my parents. They got really upset when in high school I started to wean off the church. My father said to me, "If you live under my roof, you are required to attend church." I moved out at 18. I'll give them some credit, though. They did take me back in a few years later when I was between places and could not find an available apartment for nearly 6 months. I hated e
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Oh, I've definitely been shunned as well. See my other thread entitled, 'Am I being shunned?' I was also harassed for YEARS by missionaries, visiting teachers, you name it. I knew that the only way to get that nonsense to stop was to formally resign. I get very triggered when I see missionaries in my neighborhood or elsewhere because they were the main offenders of harassment. I am convinced
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I disagree that most people here have already 'recovered', thereby explaining the increasing amount of off-topic posts. I do not care for the off-topic posts. Even though I quit at 18, formally resigned a few years ago (I'm almost 44), I don't feel that I will EVER fully recover. It's a cult. It's a mind *&%!. My parents and many family members are still and always will be TBM. They have
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I have definitely had to have those 'we're not going to discuss that' moments with my mom. Setting boundaries with her is hard, as she knows no boundaries whatsoever! I know she is going to outlive my dad by many years and she has already said she will be a temple worker once he's gone. It will be interesting to be around her once she's at the temple all the time. Ugh
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I appreciate your thoughtful response and kind words! Fortunately I am married to a nevermo and have 3 wonderful children that will not ever be part of TSSC. So I can be myself completely around my own family, it just gets lonely and awkward in the friend and family of origin spaces.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
My parents don't hound me about it anymore. My dad will occasionally say something like, 'you should come hear us perform in the ward choir this weekend'. He knows I won't, though. I know if a conversation came up about why I don't participate in TSSC, my mother would get raging mad. My dad would just cry. He actually is always getting teared up and it makes me uncomfortable. I imagine he's t
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Roy G Biv Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My split TBM family is the same. Parents passed > away years ago, of 6 kids, 3 left the church and 3 > stayed, one that left passed away too. > > I like my TBM siblings but can't relate to them, > and they can't relate to me unless I pretend to be > like them. > > They all talk about
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Don't forget the CES letter by Jeremey Runnells. I would love to anonymously mail it to some family members. ;-)
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The greatest strife should be caused by women > realizing the problems with Patriarchy rule over > them, but for some reason too many women are blind > to it. I started to realize this as a kid and took issue with it back then!
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Yes, she'll be gone. Longest school year ever.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
My parents are still very TBM and always will be. I went 'inactive' at age 18, but formally exited in my late 30's. I have 1 brother who did the same, but the rest are still TBMs, as well as my mom's entire extended family. I feel like I don't fit in anywhere. If I go to my parent's house on a Sunday, they are blasting tabernacle music and wear church clothes the whole day. They have religio
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
It is very real. I, as a BIC, had to muster up every ounce of strength to get over the fear. So glad I did, and I'm never turning back. Wish I could get some more siblings out, and my parents, but that feels like a lost cause.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
So much unnecessary mental anguish you all have gone through. My heart goes out to you.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
This 'coworker' of mine pretty much ignores me completely now. She only talks to me if I talk to her first. The awkward tension is palpable. It's making me anxious.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Heartless Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There are two parts to this. > > First in the old days, the church believed that > only gods chosen people would accept the gospel. > That each person that agreed to baptism had at > least some blood of Israel in them. Their logic on that makes more sense for converts. What about kids who are b
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
And that's exactly what a wedding should be like. A celebration where everyone is happy and excited to be a part of it. Not separating the worthy/unworthy. Not doing rituals in costumes. I've had to suffer through being the 'unworthy' waiting outside for 2 of my TBM siblings' temple 'weddings', as well as for a few friends. Ick Interestingly enough, one of my TBM sisters loves attending non-M
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
The only 'calling' I ever had was that of primary pianist. I bounced out of the cult at 18. Once I knew I wouldn't be coming back ever again, I simply told the chorister that I was moving and wouldn't be back next week or ever (which was true...moving out of my parent's prison). I didn't ask to be released. I only told her out of courtesy.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Well obviously us exmos don't believe in such silliness. I'm just wondering the thought process of TBMs and I'm too afraid to ask one of them. Ha!
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
A long time ago, my childhood friend got married. She was only 19. I was 18 and had just graduated from high school. I felt free as a bird with so much possibility before me as a young adult. I honestly wasn't very excited for her. She was so young and already being saddled with married life. I was one of her bridesmaids, but of course had to wait outside the temple because I hadn't 'gone thr
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I can think of a few TBMs who became widows/widowers. In a few instances it was due to a tragedy. These people remarried fairly quickly (IMO)...less than a year after spouse passed away. Each of them were sealed to the new spouse. So when the TBM spouse dies, does anything happen to their celestial marriage, or are these people now polygamists? It must be so confusing for the children involve
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I also went to those dances at that chapel building, which we referred to as 'The Mormon Center'. We even had some youth activities there, including utilizing the pool that has since been filled in! You're really a local if you know what the red rocket was...LMAO
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
Now you're onto something!
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I'm in the greater Sacramento area and I remember going to the Oakland temple as a youth in the early 1990's. I only went once or twice. It was a long drive. Now we have one really close by and I have to see it every time I'm on the freeway. Ugh.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
I can honestly say I was always embarrassed to be known as Mormon as a kid! I remember kids in elementary school harassing me about polygamy and wanted to see if horns were growing out of my head. TSCC never sat right with me. I'm in CA and I'm always shocked when I find out that anyone I went to high school with is still Mo. You really have to have your head buried in the sand to be in it.
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1 year ago
bluebutterfly
When I left, I was harassed for YEARS. I moved out of my parent's house at 18...as soon as I financially could! I never went back to church after that. From then on, I kept getting messages on my answering machine (haha this was a long time ago) from church people, mishies constantly showing up at my door, letters in the mail from visiting teachers, etc. It was so stressful. This continued ever
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