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11 years ago
rogermartim
Raptor Jesus is right up there with the best of them.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I end up everyday at least with a sore nose snorting out my vodka tonic with some of the sh!t that I read here. My poor nose!
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11 years ago
rogermartim
There are so many good posters here with their style of writing, their use of imagination, funny or serious. I check in everyday to read them. It would be unfair to single them out as each of us contribute as best as we know how to express ourselves. So, this is a contribute from each of us to our favorite reads. They enrich us and hopefully they help to lead those who need assistance to take the
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11 years ago
rogermartim
Voters in Minnesota defeated the "traditional" marriage (whatever that means) amendment last November. There is a big movement now in the state to jump on the bandwagon and join Iowa in the Midwest in allowing Gay couples to marry. My nephew and his fiancé will probably be one of the first to marry when this passes. On 2.8.14 they will have a "commitment" ceremony in the Mexi
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11 years ago
rogermartim
...leave the cult? I seem to see an equal mix of folks on RfM, but do wonder who is more inclined to stay behind. With men, the excessive duties of attending church activities would be a turn-off for me. How about he women with their less than equal status in the Mormon church? I would think that would be an equal turn-off.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
And to think that Mitt Romney said that he cried about the change in 1978 when he heard it on his car radio. Didn't he think that this church doctrine was sh!t to begin with? I'm sure he will cry again when he hears about another doctrinal change accepting Gay folks down the road.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
What I found so strange about that story is that he told it in a humorous tone and that it was no big deal. Western fires that have destroyed so many thousands of homes and lives over the years are sometimes started by "innocent" pranks. It is not a joking matter. Too bad that the statute of limitations are over with for the one and only Thomas S. Monson. I would have charged him wit
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I've never seen GC before as a no-mo. I have BYU on my cable and so I decided to take a peek. I caught the last hour of it. Here are some thoughts. Is it Whitney Clayton or some such? He spoke about marriage, how sacred it is, the rewards that it reaps, ad nauseam. Has it ever entered his mind once that this perfect marriage that he speaks of was something that the founding prophet, Joseph Smi
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11 years ago
rogermartim
About a year or two ago there were three JWs ringing my bell. American Sign Language (ASL) is my second language. One of the JWs immediately started signing to me although I've never seen her and there were no externals to indicate that I am hearing impaired. I heard the bell, didn't I? To their credit I told them that I was happy in my own church and then they left. It did weird me out.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I don't think there is a doctrinal position on homosexuality being dogmatic. In any case, the pope can speak ex cathedra (and I am not even sure if he has to do that) and say that homosexuality is OK as a sexual expression between two committed persons as in a marriage. However, I don't think that I will see that in my lifetime.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I thought the Mormon church doesn't teach "original sin."
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11 years ago
rogermartim
As a nevermo, I don't quite understand the idea that there was no death before the Fall and what is the rationale behind that. So, when Eve plucked a fruit from a tree and gave Adam a bite, what happened? Did millions of dinosaurs that had ever lived suddenly drop dead? Not to mention all the billions of other animals and humans. Did Lucy the earliest hominoid in Africa expire as well?
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11 years ago
rogermartim
In his homily, Francis said the core message of God is "that of mercy." He said God has an unfathomable capacity to pardon and noted that people are often harder on each other than God is toward sinners. I know that many of the RfM'ers have a hard time fathoming that there is a God of mercy, but there are Christians who truly believe that. There is a gradation of the God in the Ol
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I had a friend who literally thought that Illinois was a state in Chicago somewhere.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
The Jesuits have been in the last 50-100 years the most progressive of all RC entities. It will be interesting to see whether this will translate into future policies coming from the Vatican. I think there will be. It will be slow going but what else can be expected. At least the RC Church doesn't amend scriptures as the LDS Church seems to be doing lately which is basically whoring itself in
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11 years ago
rogermartim
The television coverage of what's happening in Rome is quite a bit different than the announcement of a new President of the LDS Church (the fastest growing church in the world) in Salt Lake City. At least in SLC there is no mystery in the process which is colorless and dry and the guy is wearing a Wall Street suit. Mystery is half the fun, white smoke and all. To be sure, the new Pope will ha
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11 years ago
rogermartim
Ancient Christianity had it rough with all the Gnostic and Arian faith systems running amok for many centuries. (Gnosticism depended on its esotericism which is not unlike modern-day Mormonism.) Yet they went the wayside and Christianity survived. The 16th century Reformation movements provided fodder for those faith systems which arose in the 19th century. Everything came up for grabs. I s
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11 years ago
rogermartim
During this time period, hundreds and hundreds of new denominations popped up claiming to have the truth. To name a few are Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah Witnesses, Christian Scientists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and how about those churches that think handling rattle snakes is sacramental, etc., etc. What is truth among these many late-founded faiths? Why should I accept
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11 years ago
rogermartim
...but I am incredibly sad too. flattopSF was one of my favorite posters when I first started participating in RfM. He kept me entertained with his witticisms, the "in your face" observations, etc. I didn't always appreciate my Pope as being referred to as Benny the Rat, but I knew where he was coming from. Then he bowed out to go to school and needed a break from his intensive in
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I am way out of my league with all this computer talk and so be prepared for some baby talk. If I had to replace my desktop computer I am assuming that it would come with Windows 8. How does the touch screen thingy work with a desktop? I'd have to reach out an arm's length to touch the monitor. Would I be able to "down grade" to Windows 7? I am a mouse-o-phile.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I don't know who came up with this but one of my favorite short phrases is: "A friend is someone who knows all about you but likes you anyway." Apparently that doesn't work well in Mormon society with an apostate hanging about in their midst. Or even in famlies with an apostate member.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
When I was living in the DC area and would be on the I-495 beltway, there were many times some reference to the Wizard of Oz's home hanging from the overpass with the Mormon temple right square in your face. I must admit that it is a panoramic sight but if one didn't know what it was, they'd probably never guess that it was a religious edifice.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
A little off from the main thrust of the argument, but I don't like MORmON written as typed because it is so damn hard for me to read when upper and lower case letters are used in a single word.
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11 years ago
rogermartim
Sorry to hear about your dachshund, Shazam. You might like this story. I was in a small town about two hours south of Rio de Janeiro in Brazil. I was walking around and all of a sudden there was a roving pack of large dogs who all looked like they were up to no good. I calmly steered myself away from them but they kept following me. I was getting very nervous. Then out of nowhere came this lit
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11 years ago
rogermartim
Spaghetti Oh, it isn't just us hard of hearing folks but also hearing folks too. In spoken language there are many shortcuts that look so different in the written word. We read "eggs and bacon" but we actually say "egg zand bacon." This is what confuses people who don't speak the English language. Conversely it is the same when we hear the shortcuts in other languages. E
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I found this such an interesting thread and would like more input. I majored in German and minored in French in college. As soon as I got my diploma I went to work in an insurance company. Was making fairly good money at the time and so I dropped the idea of Graduate School. I never kept up with German and French and so nowadays I would need a refresher course although I am comfortable trav
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11 years ago
rogermartim
Jehovah is a corruption of the Hebrew word written as YHWH (Yahweh). The Jews considered the word so holy that they never pronounced it, subsituting instead "Adonai", Hebrew for Lord. In most modern translations of the Bible, Yahweh is rendered as Lord, with L in big cap and -ord in small caps. This is to differentiate Yahweh and Adonai. All non-Mormon biblical scholars would reject the
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11 years ago
rogermartim
...but are Tom Phillips, Anointed One, and Jesus Smith all one and same person?
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11 years ago
rogermartim
If naming kids where they were conceived, shouldn't there be lots of Marriotts, Hiltons, Holiday Inns or Holiday Inns Express, not to mention Motel 6's and 8's entering first grade about now?
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11 years ago
rogermartim
I will admit that Bristol isn't all that bad-sounding of a name but if it is true that Mrs. Palin says her daughter is named after a hotel of the same name where she was conceived, that is narcissistic. "Hey everyone, Bristol Hotel is where Todd and I fucked." What? Daughter Willow was conceived beneath or up in a willow tree? Kinky. I believe that Mr. and Mrs. Palin fell off the
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