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3 years ago
spwdone
I am so sorry. Ultimately there is nothing you can do, except care for yourself. Get in touch with Al-anon, there are virtual meetings going on. Hearing from others with similar experiences can be amazingly helpful If your friend/boyfriend doesn’t want help you cannot make him. Don’t let him drag you down. I am sorry for your loss.
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3 years ago
spwdone
Agreed, it is a global problem and humanity does cycle.
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3 years ago
spwdone
Dear Adam, it sounds like it is definitely time to cut ties. It is hard and will be painful in unexpected ways for a while, but you need to prioritize your own well-being. You deserve to be treated with kindness and respect, and that starts with you treating yourself that way. I am guessing you are a legal adult? If you are a minor this is a totally different situation and the following does
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3 years ago
spwdone
OMG - thanks, I needed those!
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3 years ago
spwdone
I know, the hypocrisy is so blatant it makes you want to scream, but what’s the point? They are too busy being righteous Lemmings to listen or have an original thought.
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3 years ago
spwdone
The LDS church has long sanctified the submission of women. It has been a calculated effort over decades to ensure women continue to put in hundreds of thousands of hours of free labor, without which the church organization would crumble. Privileged white men want to maintain power and manipulate “divine revelation” in order to do so. Nothing new here.
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3 years ago
spwdone
With all that is happening in the US right now, it seems obvious that kindness is what we as a society lack, and what is desperately needed. It is also a behavior almost completely absent from LDS theology. I have received vitriolic emails from TBM family members recently after I re-posted requests for help from our local food bank and about my support for racial equity and BLM. Honestly,
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3 years ago
spwdone
No! It might be understandable if you were being abusive To them but even then a therapist should be “the grown up.” File a complaint with the licensing board in your State. Totally unacceptable. BTW, I am certified as a therapist.
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3 years ago
spwdone
You can choose your own family! People who disrespect you and treat you badly do not deserve your time. Yes, it’s painful and you will go through the grieving process, but there are people out there who will love and appreciate you for who you are without trying to make you fit into their box. Put the time and effort into friends who support you and love you. You are far from alone in havin
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3 years ago
spwdone
Sorry, stupid autocorrect suicide helpline. Please let us know you are doing ok.
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3 years ago
spwdone
Dear No one knows me, It will get better. In the meantime please get help. Here is the suited help line, use it, please! 1-800-273-8255 You are in crisis and feeling alone, you are not, it just seems that way right now. You matter, your feelings and what you think matters. It will all get sorted out and you will be ok, just get help, please.
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3 years ago
spwdone
Here here, Bro of Jerry - I remember shortly before I left the church giving a talk on the WoW. Before my talk I was looking out over a congregation of whom at least 60% were obese and I remember thinking I was talking about the wrong vices.
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3 years ago
spwdone
My grandmother was a Sessions as well and I have heard a similar story. Wonder if we are related? I have not done ant family history so no idea what the names are past my great grandmother in that line.
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3 years ago
spwdone
Congrats! At 30 years for us, I’m in awe.
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3 years ago
spwdone
Hiya all, haven’t been on in 15-20 years when I was a frequent flyer dealing with my new life as a non-cult member. Once you get sorted seems like you don’t need it as much, but this place was a sanity saver for me for years. One of my TBM sisters is finally waking up from the fog and talking to her made me take another look here. My two cents: Neighbors can be great, or can be a curse. P
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8 years ago
spwdone
Sounds like you may need a new therapist. Not being able to remember your childhood is indicative of trauma, it is not normal. I have personal experience with this, but second-hand, if that makes sense.I have two examples. One of my sisters (I have 3 sisters) doesn't remember anything about her childhood, the rest of us do. About 8 years ago this came up, and it was discovered that she had b
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8 years ago
spwdone
Mr. Happy, I am so sorry. Although it's been 39 years and you did the right thing, I have no doubt it still hurts. I know quite a few people who also had to break all ties to their family. It is so, incredibly, disgustingly wrong. How an organization that claims to be Christ based can behave in such incredibly un-Christlike ways (and I am not even sure that I am still a Christian, I waver a l
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8 years ago
spwdone
I too, would love to hear an honest answer to your question, koriwhore! However, I think that is very unlikely to happen, because: 1- (More detail for you, NeverMoJohn, follows at the end), You are chatting with 18 - 22 year old kids, most of whom have been brainwashed since birth, and never exposed to an independent thought or encouraged to actually think, much less outside the box. Plus they
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8 years ago
spwdone
I think Taoism is very interesting and I really, really like the philosophy behind it, but I just can't totally get into it. In the years since I left the TSC though, I find I have a hard time putting stock in any type of God, or even a higher power. It just doesn't seem to make sense. At the same time, I like the idea of Christ, and the ideal of being Christlike. However, I have yet to see a
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8 years ago
spwdone
My parents were full of platitudes and lots of talk about how "the church is true, even though people make mistakes, blah,blah,blah." Interestingly enough, they divorced a few years after I came home and while both of them are still active, my Dad has become much less, let's say, willing to drink the cool-aid. He doesn't actively oppose anything church related, but, he has also become a
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8 years ago
spwdone
I came down with Lymes Disease about 6 months in, but it wasn't diagnosed for another year. I got progressively sicker, with breathing difficulties, horrendous headaches, muscle and joint pain and other problems I won't detail. At about 9 months I was barely functional, could barely walk from the car (yes, we had a car), to the door of wherever we were going. I was in pain all the time, couldn't
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8 years ago
spwdone
Many, many people who grew up as members and left the church of hypocrisy and falsehood (including myself, many years ago) have experienced something very similar to this. I have a couple of things to contribute here. Most active mormons believe that anyone who drinks has a substance abuse problem and yes, drinking a glass or two of wine with dinner is totally normal. Some members of my family
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8 years ago
spwdone
Boyd K. Packer, who stopped Leonard Arrington (Church Historian) from having access to the LDS archives made these comments: “ if not properly written or properly taught,... may be a faith destroyer... The writer or teacher who has an exaggerated loyalty to the theory that everything must be told is laying a foundation for his own judgment.... The Lord made it very clear that some things ar
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8 years ago
spwdone
As a straight person who has had many good friends who are gay and lesbian for many years, Tweed you are way off. I've seen more loving, supportive relationships among my gay and lesbian friends than I have in the marriages of my straight friends by far. Yes, I've known plenty who went off the ropes for a while when they were young, but no more than my straight friends & acquaintances. Als
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8 years ago
spwdone
No matter how much you gild a pile of sh*t, it's still just a pile of sh*t. The fact that anyone with a working brain is recognizing this is causing TSC to hemorrhage members, especially that coveted 18 - 48 year old demographic. Holland has always been an ass and trying to intimidate 18 - 21 year olds into staying Mormon does not improve it.
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8 years ago
spwdone
I have enjoyed Amy on "Wait, wait, don't tell me" on NPR for ages. Now I love her not just for being funny & smart, but spot on when calling out snobby, self-righteous bitches. Wow. I know it's not "doctrine," but most of the active TBM's I know don't know much about being Christian; and despite what I kept being told before I left, the people ARE the church.
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9 years ago
spwdone
I would love to hear all your stories too! Please, please post them whenever you're feeling like reminiscing. My grandparents said the same thing about the church changing (not that I think it was any more true then, but I do think it was less of a corporation at least.). It makes my grandmother sad when she talks about it and she doesn't like to go to church anymore. Which makes me sad because i
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9 years ago
spwdone
Wow! Perfect! That was my life growing up!! Great job!
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9 years ago
spwdone
I learned about it when our Home teachers came, probably a week or so after the fact. I was 10 and confused and mad. I had just finished being grounded (after being severely beaten) for asking about this precise topic in sunday school. It didn't make sense to me that blacks couldn't hold the priesthood and I didn't like the stock answers. My teacher got mad, sent me to the bishop. The bishop told
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9 years ago
spwdone
Yes, I feel very confident with the guidelines above having been raised LDS and gone to dozens of LDS receptions at various locals. Go with the park look for this one and plan something more fun for after. : )
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