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10 years ago
Bartok
I am so sorry to bother all of your on Christmas morning, merry Christmas to all of you I hope you have a great time, but I can't take my parents constant bashing on the homosexuals wanting to get married! Its been like this all morning! " Those gays are gonna still get married!" " they won't change the law because we are being persecuted!" "They move to Utah, such a wond
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10 years ago
Bartok
As much as I don't want to go to church today, family ties demand I do. So I'm going in pants! I'm glad someone else on this board remembered the day. I completely agree with you about these women. I don't understand it either, make sure to post if anything happens BabyCenter Snoop!
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10 years ago
Bartok
Lucky. How did you pull that off?
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10 years ago
Bartok
I want to tell them. I want to come clean and tell them what I really think. I am so sick of lying and holding my tongue In every conversation. I am moving next month and won't see my family for probably 2 years. Should I tell them I don't believe now, or should I wait and tell them when I'm in japan, or tell them when I return? I don't know what Will be easier for both of us, Does anyon
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10 years ago
Bartok
How is that ignorant? Its completely true.
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10 years ago
Bartok
This is the best +100 to the pokemon references!
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10 years ago
Bartok
Today I was on my long flight home from Japan, and was talking to a kind old man and his son. They were nice and we chatted about out trips and such, when the old man asked me what church I go to. I replied I am an exmormon. I didn't want to go any further then that, but then he started telling me what church I need to go to so I can "really find Jesus" Now I probably should hav
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10 years ago
Bartok
No history of alcoholism in my family, both sides have been Mormon since waaaaay back so no drinking at all. I didn't feel like I "had" to drink, I just wanted to see What it was like, that's all. Thanks for your advice, the people on this board are really the only people I can talk to about anything anymore. :) I still feel guilty and a bit paranoid About drinking XD but I think
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10 years ago
Bartok
Yes it is :) I'm glad someone recognized it. He is my favorite composer.
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10 years ago
Bartok
Congratulations! You did the right thing, don't let anyone tell you otherwise! :)
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10 years ago
Bartok
"They are literally the Urukai from Mormondor" This +100 I almost died laughing
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10 years ago
Bartok
And I feel terribly guilty about it. I don't know why, I'm old enough, I didn't even get smashed or anything, I just had a sip of a friends beer (which I find disgusting) and half of some sweet peach drink. I didn't even feel anything from it. I'm just terrified my parents will find out and ostracize me.
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10 years ago
Bartok
I found this amusing "He had become very involved in pagan and idolatrous rituals, declared himself an atheist," So he became involved in paganism (defined as any various religion other than Christianity, Judaism, or Islam) and that equals atheist. Right. Also, what "Idolatrous Rituals" did he engage in? Was he performing blood sacrifices? Or maybe dressing on st
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10 years ago
Bartok
I figured it was, I probably should have stated that. I just wanted to know if anyone else had this made up story shoved down their throat.
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10 years ago
Bartok
My YW group had this story regaled to us on a mutual night. I'm wondering is any of you have heard it? I also want to say I don't mean to make light of rape, or any situation like it. Forgive my terrible prose. This girl was walking home from a testimony-seminary (do those exist?) meeting that went super long and she ended up walking home at midnight. As she walked all of her friends
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10 years ago
Bartok
I'm gonna go with nepotism.
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10 years ago
Bartok
Concerning religious topics? I am an atheist and sometimes the things people say because of religion just piss me off. I try really hard just to hide my atheism, but I feel like its not true to me. I'm having a hard enough time telling people I'm not Mormon anymore, let alone an atheist. Ah, I'm just rambling again. But I guess that's my question. I also want to say thanks to everyone on t
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10 years ago
Bartok
In singles ward we had a guy give a 5 minute sermon on how he had shaved off his mustache, and he was SURE we were concerned about it, so had to let us know he has just shaved it off this morning.
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10 years ago
Bartok
Then he proceeded to tell me that polygamy is really legal, its just that you can't have sex outside of marriage, that will land you in jail. I can leave the church in January and its coming way too slow. Sad thing is, my first reaction was to believe him....ugh why do I have this deference to authority.
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10 years ago
Bartok
Thank you everyone for your help! I really liked all of your responses but some o didn't get to until after my lesson was over, for that I'm sorry because you guys are brilliant! I really liked all of the JOD and SWK quotations, and as such put them in my lesson. So there I sat expecting some confused stares, and all I get are nodding heads, and smiles. No one dared question the prophets teac
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10 years ago
Bartok
Wow. I wish I was like you guys , I would walk around saying " the church is true! You can try to disprove it but it won't work! You can go around saying rain doesn't fall but it still does!" All because my YW leader told me that mantra I KNEW it had to be true. .......I shudder to think I believed that.....
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10 years ago
Bartok
I have a challenge for you, my lovely friends, I regrettably have to give a gospel doctrine lesson this Sunday. Now, the only reason I am still teaching is I don't want to rock the boat. My stepmother is still pretty sore about my "questioning" and while I live two blocks from her, I don't want to test those waters. My lesson is on family roles, so my question to you my fellow exmorm
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10 years ago
Bartok
I hope she doesn't get crap for it. When I said no to my mission call I got reamed! Especially from the community, my parents were disappointed, but okay with my decision. (Or so I thought) but every time I turned around I would get the same conversation : " when are you going on your mission?" " well I decided not to go." "Oh! You must be getting married!"
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10 years ago
Bartok
24. +1000
Hahahahaha! I love you guys!
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10 years ago
Bartok
I hate that saying "when the prophet speaks, the thinking has been done." I hate it so much! My bishop tried to use that on me too. Pass the kool aid is right!
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10 years ago
Bartok
O.O wow. That's terrible! Why can't they think for themselves? *shakes head*
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10 years ago
Bartok
I don't think "completely honest " was meant toward me, as he still thinks I am "going through a faze" . But I did tell him I thought that if everyone was completely brutally honest, society would collapse.
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10 years ago
Bartok
My father owns a small business hardware store, and today he told me "If the church came up to me and asked for everything in my store, I would give it to them. Wouldn't it be nice if the whole world was completely honest like the church?" .......I was astonished! There are so many things wrong with that statement. I often wonder if I would have said the same things in my TBM days
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10 years ago
Bartok
I have been asking my bishop about all my questions, ( polygamy/polyandry, BOA, Adam-God etc.) And I can't buy his answers, it's all about how Satan changed all the documents that prove JS was polygamous, and how Satan changed the BOA text to not say what it is supposed to say. Anyway, to my point, the last time we talked he said that he was "gravely concerned for me" and I wondered
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10 years ago
Bartok
30. +100
O.O its like you read my mind. Yes! Exactly! I did the same thing!
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