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6 months ago
presleynfactsrock
You caught me. When I read what I had wrote after having more sleep, I realized I had used the word miracle when I meant to have said revelation. But I was lazy and didn't correct it. The devil made me do it. :)
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6 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Luv it....and glad the card worked so well.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I love this thread and its great, pressing question of "Where's Jesus?' I think it is THE question to bring up to religious people. Yes, I can (I think) hear your response of what these religious people will reply. They will reply: ***Jesus must lay low because this world is a test to see what we are made of and if we will follow Him and, drum roll, CHOOSE THE RIGHT. ***That Sat
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Appreciate your sharing my excitement. My hope was growing thin.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
No, I didn't have to use a penlight, a notebook, and my wife to receive them. Can you believe it? But, I know that these two miracles are real and wonderful and amazing. Will I become well known because I received them? Very doubtfully. Will I be happier because of them? Yes, oh yes! Two, yes two, young family members have seen the light....they no longer believe in the Mormon Church
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I thank you tons for sharing. Your insights helped me to view these two cultures with more knowledge, instead of often relying on rumor and quick observations of my own.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I personally hope Jesus is somewhere in a hippie universe with his hippie friends enjoying life because he sure deserves this. I mean, after all, he worked hard to get people thinking about some very important stuff, so I tend to think he has earned lots of jolly universe-time hanging out doing whatever in the hell he wants to do. Did he ever take time to surf on the Dead Sea? No, he just
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
ChurchCo will Obfuscate On Anything And Everything And Those Those Things In Between. Because (they say) it is their duuuty, their responsibility to lie for the Lord, well, on anything, and everything, and those things in between. Those who sit in high places of the MormonCult do not bat an eyelid, their tongues are sly, they look who they are talking to in the eye, and then obfuscate o
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Mormon Prophet Russell Nelson, Me thinks you did not think too long and hard nor study too long and hard nor TALK TO GOD or JESUS at all about this here "Mormon" revelation, or doctrine change, or however you want to describe it. I can recall in my lifetime being asked multiple times if I live near the Mormon Temple, if I live in Mormon Salt Lake City, if I am a Mormon, how did Mo
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I think the one "lacking in spirit" is Ole Crusty Rusty. And, when he does smile or make an attempt at doing so, it appears forced and fake because his demeanor most always is pompous, ornery, sterile, stern, and indignant.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
This is funny. I like to add that the monkeys were happily smiling.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Years ago, near Vernal area somewhere or other, we drove over and heard the disgusting continual crunching sound of "Mormon crickets" meeting their doom. It seemed to go on forever, many, many miles at least, but who knows how long in actuality it was because it was such a horrific sound even heard with car windows rolled up. Why didn't we drown it out with loud music? Hell, I do
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
My big red flag was the very disappointing temple ceremony. Seriously, this event was so not what the sales force advertised it to be AT ALL. Was it spiritual? Hardly. Was it boring, juvenile, insulting, comical, while also being abusive, manipulative and threatening? Yesiree. Did it appear man-made stupidity? Yup. Did it insult me? You bet. I was attending university and
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Wow....I had no idea that a "dress" code really existed in terms of what one wears when going to the temple. I had no one give me instructions as to how I should dress nor had I seen anyone dressed for such an occasion. I think I just surmised that "Sunday dress" would be the requirement. I was the first in my immediate family to head to the temple and the agenda was both
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
They could have sang alright....sang out of, let's see... ***boredom ***been made to sing by the authorities ***sang to forget their sore, sore tired feet and legs, hungry bellies, the rain than was slapping them in the face, the sun that relentlessly beat down on them, the ever-present biting insects, and on and on and on. ***sang sometimes because sweet, fun-seeking children often c
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
So agree. I think it's only fair to give them a taste of what they give others. Be relentless with a smile on your face right back in their face. I'm sure the bishop is beside himself with the prospect of someone like you...a real live person who does not have the usual characteristics of a needy-down-on-their-luck potential member.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Very fun, creative and interesting comments. My thoughts have returned to this beautiful, young, naive couple several times today, wondering and wishing I knew their thoughts and mind as they sat through their temple session, most likely because I myself found the temple so weird and so threatening. I only attended a measly few times after my initial first thrust into this 'supposedly MOST
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Must men wear the proverbial white shirt, tie and suit, only to shove said clothing in a small locker erasing all signs of being wrinkle free? Do women ever appear at the temple door in dress slacks or would said temple door fail to open? Is there an earring check to weed out any uncompliant ears? These important questions came to mind after seeing a very young couple dressed in Sunday-b
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
And keep in mind that not any ole seerstone will do.....it must first of all be one that you steal, oh excuse me, borrow from your seering neighbor, be of a rather mundane brown hue with just the right swirls in it, plus be capable of sitting quietly in the church vault gathering a thick layer of grime and dust, not bothering a single soul. THEN.....drop it in said hat, and voila you are ready
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I'd like to chime in with my own quick synopsis of the BOM. A sleazy, yet charismatic con artist Joseph Smith, Jr. (with the given and stolen aid of others' words and assistance), created the blasay Book of Mormon with the intent of finding marks gullible enough to fall for his scheme of naming himself, "The Restoration Prophet of God". Farm work he detested....but hurting and cheat
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
In my not-so-humble-opinion Rusty is a piss-poor-actor who continually plays the role of the oh-so-caring prophet whether he's exhorting the destitute Africans to pay their tithing so they will be blessed with wealth or pretending to care about the gays. How does a prophet have two revelations that are opposites (as the two dealing with the gays)? And, has the church bothered to apologize at
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
very clever and very funny.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
The cult can guilt members into this so-called-bonding-with-the-pioneers, making said members feel this is also a must to show respect. I believe some of the thinking is, "If the brave pioneers can do it, why so can I." By the way, who doesn't think the pioneers would have hopped on the nearest airplane if it had been an option?
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
If anything, the cult is constant....constantly stupid. Oh well, let them be. Let them, like when Ballard recently, emphatically stated that the church has never hidden any information. What??? Say that again, Ballard and he did. To the youth who, after the meeting, had their handy fact-checkers in their hands and could double check, and triple check, what Ballard had blirted.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I have deduced that I am a Fallen Person with regular arches.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
The words of Richard Scott in GC are dispicable, plus the tone of his voice and his judging facial expression creates a package of satan himself standing at the podium. A church that would let this message be delivered is anything but kind and loving of people and what they experience. Thanks for posting this site as I am glad I was able to hear Scott present this "loving" message
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Yet another example of how cruel and evil it is of the church to ingrain in children, very young children, how the church expects them and encourages them to serve missions while they are still children. Missions should be served by ADULTS, AND ONLY ADULTS who are old enough to have studied and decided that this is something they sincerely WANT TO DO. LDS Youth Missions are just one of the
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Completely agree. These facts did it for me. PLUS....the book is soooooooooo damn boring. Over and over and over there are wars and rumors of wars and then.....over and over and over there are people who cause wars and rumors of wars and,,,,,,yep, then it all starts.... all over again. Yikes. A Nursery Rhyme has more to offer....over and over again.
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7 months ago
presleynfactsrock
A cult that is so afraid to let the youth have fun is causing what is happening to the young people, questions and disaffection, to which I say, "Keep it up. Keep it up." The cult leaders care only about THEIR life of ease and plenty, of course, lying continually that they love the youth and want them to have a wonderful life. The GREAT thing is that the intelligent tech-savy-you
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9 months ago
presleynfactsrock
So, sooo sorry about the deleted post. Just pray that it does not ruin the whole day that is before you, nor that you take it tooo personally (maybe a little, but going beyond that into that other zone is not necessary...but here I digress). This deletion stuff is what makes the world run (according to the Big M anyways). Like in, how could the cult of Mormonism operate if it did not tell
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