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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Hi. I just saw your request concerning a link. I also like Dan Dennitt. Right now, I can hardly keep my eyes open and haven't done a live link for a while so I will just give you the typed info. If you have any trouble, let me know and tomorrow I can better (hopefully) send a link. It is found on You tube. Dan Dennett: Responding to Pastor Rick Warren.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I have always been very in favor of this from my studies and interest in cultural anthropology. Religion is a vital part of who humans are; there is not one culture in the history of our world that lacks religion. All people want to know why they are here, where they came from and will they go someplace after they die. Daniel C. Dennett, a cognitive scientist and writer, states, and I agre
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Welcome. This site is filled with wonderful humor, wonderful wisdom, and just plain wonderful wonder and awe for the planet we live on. I think you will find community here, and as the saying goes, "Take what you like, and leave the rest".
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
From my observation, if you're a retired carpenter, engineer, doctor, or grasshopper collector and you raise you paw to volunteer, the church will snap you up and let you work for....hold the tears and applause.....for FREE! They will use your training and skills when and where they want to. What a racket. Of course, Sleazy Joe and Briggy were masters at that, so they learned from the wo
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
How about the touchy-feelie of your extended pregnant belly by male priesthood pricks in the ward, even the old wrinkled farts, sometimes accompanied by creepy or sexual comments like, "Oh, haven't we been busy lately", or "It was a cold winter, wasn't it?" These touches happened fast, took you off guard, just like the garment feel-ups. Where was my sharp wacking-stick whe
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Dancing lessons for sure....and for sure the Mormoncult will make it a a point (or a book) to indicate which they approve and disapprove of. Foreign languages are a must....by the way, I missed church meetings a lot (yes, hold your envy), so is there a special Holy Heavenly Language that will be spoken??? (besides Reformed Egyptian - that sneaky never-found JS language)
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Because I was not caught in the Mormon-mindset of avoiding the "evil world", I have a hard time even wrapping around the fact that there are plenty members who do. I was lucky as I was not indoctrinated as a child and on up. But, I did attend church enough with friends to hear about the promise of happiness and eternal life if I married in the temple, etc. Then came the bomb shel
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Exminions, your words and writing are powerful and very well stated. I am so sorry for what you and your family went through at the hands of some mormons. Mormonism is a dangerous cult in so, so many ways and this bullying is one of the big ones. You deserve big kudos and shouts of praise for the strength and courage you developed and fought for.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I live in a community setting and have experienced two frightening experiences. The first was during the day, around 3-ish and I heard someone cussing and rattling my locked (thank heavens) screen door, even kicking it. I thought the person sounded very drunk, so I gave him a little time to get discouraged and leave. He soon stumbled on. The second time was worse than the first. It was a
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I have to comment to Jesus Lives! Jesus died for us! Well, make up your mind....which is it?
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
My pick for the a three-way tie for the top prize are..... *****MOMMY, SCRATCH MY BUTT!!!" *****A teenager uttering, "Yabadabadoo, I know this church is true". *****The lady who always started her testimony "You all know I'm a drunk...."
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Had to love the visitors who stood up condemning the waste of time by ward members like they were one of the General Authorities (like Oaks), They were often bossy and loud. One time I remember a fairly new member's Mom doing this after there had been a loooong silence, and I watched as her son and his wife sort of melted into the bench. "I just can't understand how you can let this p
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I wrestled with this dilemma of whether to resign or not resign because I knew it was nothing but a bunch of hooey, hot air, and as you say, no legal contract. But, I detested the MormonCult to the bottom of my arthritic toes, and it was damn important to me to just send these pricks a letter saying "Take me off your roles now!" Plus, I wanted to tell my TBM family members and frien
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Amen and amen to the statement that "Mormonism is a tightly sealed bubble". Many years in the past, after my husband and I lost the battle of trying to talk our dear first born daughter out of a mission, and then when she got her call, to pleeeease ask for it be rethought and re-revealed (ha, ha) so she could not be sent to such a god-forsaken, unsafe and unclean country, she stepped
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Wally, this is one of my fav posts of your many humorous and wise "revelations," You said of the Prophet and Apostles, "These days they're not so much in the business of "revealing" things as in the business of "de-revealing" things". They are "Deleting. Sweeping under the rug. Relabeling". My mind jumped to what a sad and unproductive
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Appreciate your reading and replying to my post, Flash. Thanks a bunch. I've enjoyed this thread your words created and hearing the varied responses. Life is truly amazing in all the shapes and varieties of people it offers and creates. How different we can see and experience, what irritates one person is not understood by another, and so it goes.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
They might watch and cheer him on, all the while smiling smugly and envisioning large $$$ signs around him. I have been on a rant recently with the Ones Sitting on Their Thrones because of some family indoctrination issues, plus just seeing day in and out, weekly, and monthly all the shit these evil clowns pull and get away with. The leadership of the cult is plain mean, evil and deceitf
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
First, I want to say, Flash, that I am so deeply sorry for your loss of the love of your life. I wish with all my heart I had the ability to bring Kathy back to you. Sooo happy you wrote and shared the story of your mission experience. It was my first time to read it, and I very much APPRECIATE how you courageously brought to the surface your raw, authentic, normal, extremely HONEST feelin
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Let's see....THE authority of a GA... Well, first of all, I am changing it to what it amounts to which is THE AUTHORITY THE GAs IMAGINE THEY HAVE. and, to continue.... The authority the GAs imagine they have... is astronomical, but in reality it amounts to the size of a proton (or less). The authority the GAs imagine they have... makes them talk and pray like idiots. The authority
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
From my experience with some seniors who've chosen to serve missions that was their huge dream, especially for wives who had never served missions when they were younger. These TBMs were so wrapped up in the cult that it is all they ate, slept, drank, dreamed, read and talked about. Traveling for a few was alright, but it did not compare in their "wants" like serving missions for th
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I also can relate to how you are feeling. My age is ancient now, right there with T-Rex and, as a child, I had one alcoholic parent and one co-dependent parent. My home did, in no way, foster talking, feeling or kids having their own opinions. The mood was depressed, and I remember always wanting to run outside and be free from being inside the house. For years on end this is just how it was
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I say loudly.....HIP HIP HOORAY!!! I, too, have a belief.....that reasoning and facts are far superior to old myths ruling our lovely world!
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Yes....and the problem is us! At least, that is what the members of cults have been conditioned to believe. I completely agree that what is needed is for the cult members to hear what others in the real world think. These members live in a cocoon which can keep them beyond insulated and blind-sighted. I think non-cultists are doing them a service to inform them of another way of seeing
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
I stole that wonderful word from the sound of enraged mother elephants protecting their babies that I enjoyed watching via video with my grandson. It seemed to have the right contrast to the contrived more-humble-than-you-sing-songy-sickening-sweet-tone which seems to get bestowed on each new apostle along with their ability to bullshit.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
^^^^^^^^ Hasa Dega Ell Dee Ess! Love it! and, if a huge number of people then stood up and started chanting these words in unison I would know that there were Spagetti Monsters watching over our Mormonland.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
That my friend is hilarious. You have to also dress the part.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Agreed that this qualifies as a "bellowshish" GC statement, but only when accompanied by flying egg. "I'm a Mormon, you idiots. A MORMON!" Laughed a lot and thoroughly enjoyed your prose, elderolddog. October General Conference can be your debut. All those in favor, raise your eggs.
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Okay, I cannot stop at one. I offer up a few more.... This is boring. What else do you have? President Nelson, Which of Joseph's 34 or so wives is your personal favorite? How long is this meeting anyway? Whose up for a beer? Raise your hand to the square if you wonder why the chocolate brown seer stone was out of sight gathering dust for so long. Apostles, where was the discer
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Mine would be, although it is definitely hard to choose THE top of what I would ring out..... ...Do NOT talk to me in that tone of voice!
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5 months ago
presleynfactsrock
Pretentious sums it up nicely. "Showy" he was, and yes! Holland missed the boat by not arranging (you know, by doing that talking to God he rants about) to rent the heavens and all.
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