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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Locked up for fraud.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
No lika being a non-thinking slave.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Point to any community of people in any country and you will find religious movement birthplaces which are like snowflakes in how dazzling, unique and plentiful they are. There is not one culture that has been studied by anthropologists that has not had their own religion in some shape or form.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The indoctrination pill has been stuffed down their throat and so far they haven't figured out how to barf it up. Don't forget how dangerous, nasty and strong this pill is, causing all sorts of side-affects like the silly charades they are participating in. The Family/Mormonism connection has been part of this pill for a very long time, along with obedience, obedience, and more obedience. Pl
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Look at me! Do what I say! I am sooooo important. Bednar is one sick something or other who is sure he walks on water.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Kudos to you for your searching for facts of truth which have made it possible for you to become family's"scapegoat" because, at the same time, you have also become an example to them, although they may not consciously recognize this or be able to admit it. This is what keeps me smiling and has kept me smiling through the years. I do not want to be where certain others are. I love w
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Another blunder in the running, in my opinion, is that of Elder Ballard declaring at a youth fireside (yeah, he put himself in the fire with this one) that the Mormon Church has never lied. Elder Oaks is sitting by his side for this one. Ballard has reached the ripe old age of 80-something-or-other and this is what he says about Mormonism? I'd like to think that he showed many of the listeni
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Yep, yeah, yessiree....I can believe this and then some. It is the Mormon-way. So sorry it happened to you. Perhaps with your SIL it will be a wake-up call? (my joke for the day)
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Well, according to Some People, I don't pray enough, read the tedious golden bible enough, attend church enough, nor, the most important sin of them all, pay the MormonCorporation enough. These are among the list of my Jeebus-awful-sins, according to the Corp. Now, I'm rather confused from the Some-People-Rhetoric if they truly believe I can be saved by Jeebus as they cannot keep their story
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I so agree that this is one horrible, disgusting, heart-breaking story. So sorry for his granddaughter. I never had any respect for the Hinkster.....he came across to me as a true match for Joey....another blaring Charlatan.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The proof is in the pudding: >>>You say that you have questions about the church that are very, very important to have answers from the FP. Your future and your family is at stake. No, we do not do this. Bishops are assigned by us to take care of this. Don't bother us again. >>>You have no money? No way to pay your tithing except to give the church your gold tooth? Y
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Very sorry to those of you who have mission nightmares. I so detest the Mormon youth missionary system which is an evil indoctrination tool aimed at trusting, hopeful youth who have no idea they are being used and taken advantage of.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
^^^^^^ One thought I would add. Mormons are taught NOT to speak out for themselves so I think you are feeling discomfort in doing this and therefore you refer to it as "bashing". I remember being taught at Mormon church the saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". Forget that. If someone is hiding the truth yet again, lying, intimidating, e
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Both god and a teenager see themselves as the be-all and end-all, the center of the world, what they say goes, and don't you dare tell them "NO!"
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I call them Joseph's Con-Assistants.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
It's a move, in my not so humble opinion, by the church to discourage members from resigning as this method, from one who did it this way back when, takes more time and effort. I had never had anything notorized before and needed to find the details for carrying this out. Definitely not as easy as a resignation by Internet.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Mormons, as a group, should be considered brainwashed and brain-dead. A group that agrees to let others tell them what to read, to think, to say, to dress, to eat, and on and on.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Don't recall hearing much about this holiday from a Mormon perspective so was totally shocked when I realized how a family member's TBM spouse put it in the category of celebrating the devil himself.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Bigotism and imagination were not lacking in Sleazy Joe and Bully Briggy. Interesting post. Thanks for sharing, Steve.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
In my youth, attending church occasionally with my friends, I did not have the need to "fake it", but I certainly did as a young adult when I went through the temple to take out endowments and get married. "Wasn't that the most marvelous experience?" "Well hell NO", is how I really wanted to respond, but instead I faked it, mumbling, you know, "reverentl
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
No excuses are mandatory or necessary, we just learn this habit in Mormonism. I believe we hear it from others so often it becomes the 11th Commandment....Thou shalt give excuses for not being perfect. Attempting to break this "excuse-habit" was crazy difficult as I had learned it at home also. When I finally felt I was on the road to recovery, what a blessed relief!
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I myself would use the term "insulting & coerced-struck". I could not believe that after hearing repeatedly how sacred, special and marvelous the temple experience was that I had really been corralled, cornered and coerced into buying into this ridiculously juvenile demeaning roadshow performance which insulted my intelligence and belief in right and wrong. Given no warning
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Only you can decide if the church fulfills your needs. I myself am extremely happy to be out of an organization that does not find it essential for the leaders to be truthful or apologize, but demands these things from the members who also pay for the church to survive. The leaders are hypocrites, plain and simple, and manipulate continually for their own power, praise, position, and money.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Eyes1 you said about the church, "The good things it had done for in life that couldn't have happened by other processes." I am interested in you sharing those good things as you see them.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
So...I bought into the idea of garments because they were connected to the temple which, you know, was the be-all and end-all until I actually went there. And, it was the same with the garments. Yeah, I was shocked at how UGLY they were, how uncomfortable they were (try breast-feeding in them), and how easy it was to see if people wore them (or not). Wearing them made me feel as if I had a s
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I personally think Joseph Smith's record left enough tracks that show he often and purposely chose action that took advantage, stepped on, lied about, raped, robbed and kicked people when they were down and that he definitely did not care. Just his inventory alone of "convenient" prophecies speaks volumes about who (him) benefited from these concoctions. Sure, he was gifted with ama
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I also like the term Temporary Mormon as it is ironic and gleeful in the way it describes today's Mormonism, you know the Mormonism that is the one which ADAMANTLY points to gripping that Iron Rod in order to cling to the Firm Foundation of God's One True Very Solid Church.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
My philosophy is that if anyone, family or not, has been asked and reasked to cease a behavior because it is hurtful and unkind, and then continues on with such behavior, this person does not care two hoots about me and my best interest. At this point, I decided I will not be a victim of this treatment any longer. Sure, I learned to be a victim, but I do not have to continue down that traje
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
A Question Mark....until evidence proves otherwise.
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4 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Welcome and nice to meet you. As others have said, there is nothing wrong with you, it is mormonism that is the problem. By the time the mormon kids reach high school indoctrination has taught them well to stick with mormons when they make friends because they are god's chosen and others, well definitely not. However, I wouldn't be surprised that as you do your own things that bring you hap
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