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9 years ago
outsider
I've been following the number of missionaries and have expected them to start dropping now. Did they announce the number at conference?
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9 years ago
outsider
About 30,000 children will die today from preventable illnesses and hunger. I'm sure that your god could have helped them if he weren't busy helping you look for your wallet.
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9 years ago
outsider
So it's been shared 50k times. All by TBM to their TBM friends. The TBM will think that it's a sign that the world loves them instead of realizing that it's only masturbation.
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9 years ago
outsider
This exactly. For those who believe in a Christ (as opposed to a historical, illiterate Galilean peasant), I always ask about the plagues and such.
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9 years ago
outsider
This exactly. Damn near all TBM have absolutely no real knowledge and understanding of the New Testament, and most Ex-Mos do not as well. Although I'm an atheist, I've started studying the history of the Bible out of historical interest. The accounts in the Gospels simply cannot be taken as history, and must be read in context of contemporary beliefs. There is absolutely no evidence tha
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9 years ago
outsider
This will be massive! It's too bad that TSCC doesn't have a class of people who have an ability to foresee the future and the impact that has on its members. If only there were only a job description with three titles all meaning the ability to see the future, they could have known this. If only it was that the top leaders' responsibilities included getting the scoop from some sort of
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9 years ago
outsider
Cool! My sister can now marry her partner of 25 years!
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9 years ago
outsider
cytokine Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope the general authorities use Google Alerts > on their own names. If so, this message has > effectively been sent. And let's hope they included misspelling as well. ;-)
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9 years ago
outsider
I doubt that this is a good forum for an honest debate on the historicity of Jesus. There's simply far too much shouting and not enough willingness to have respectful discussions. Most of the comments remind me of those you'd expect on youtube. That said, I believe that almost all TMB and mostly likely the same percent of the Ex-Mo crowd is woefully uninformed of the nature of the Bible and bi
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9 years ago
outsider
I think you're right, though, because TSSC demands far too much for a Givenses' approach.
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9 years ago
outsider
It's nice that the person whose story was showcased left because of LDBT issues. It keeps reminding the public of how backward TBMs are.
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9 years ago
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I apologize in advance. It's really late and I'm very tired so my writing is likely to ramble and not be coherent at times. The Invisible Green Potato Wrote: > > Have you read "On the historicity of Jesus" by > Richard Carrier? It doesn't sound like you have, > but if you have then I would be interested in a > more detailed critique of it. I have not read i
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9 years ago
outsider
Exactly. This is the reason that current scholars often use the term "Jesus followers" to describe the early movements. The followers were divided concerning practices and theology, one of the largest of which concerned Christology, or the question of how divine was his nature. Was he a mortal man? An angel? God incarnate? Would he return soon? Not? Do gentile converts n
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9 years ago
outsider
Exactly. A sane person will read this review and run.
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9 years ago
outsider
He's a LDS business college student. I hope a lot of his credits can transfer when he gets booted. This whole thing about marriage being about two parents, one male and one female is hilarious. I come from polygamous ancestors, and with my g.g.g grandmother not being the first wife, her children did not grow up with a father in their lives. OTOH, I grew up in an abusive household with a f
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9 years ago
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He was careful to talk about "active atheists" and to talk about the activities of such. I can respect that. However, I disagree with his questioning for the need for a word describing the someone who doesn't and using a golf as an example. Historically, people people who didn't play golf were not killed or punished. Playing golf or not does not make a difference between in politi
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9 years ago
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RPackham Wrote: > > Of course early Christianity was diverse. It is a > straw-man argument to criticize Maccoby for > claiming that Paul was the sole source for the > later Christianity. Maccoby acknowledges other > sources and names them. His thesis is simply that > what later became Christianity was essentially and > basically from Paul. > Again, you ear
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9 years ago
outsider
That's funny.
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9 years ago
outsider
Beth, I'm happy to hear the update from you. I grew up in a family from hell. My father had the emotional control of a toddler which a physical body of a grown man, and apparently no capacity to understand his actions. The aftermath is that of the five of us, three have attempted suicide, the daughter of one has recently also attempted to kill herself, two of my siblings are psychotic, i
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9 years ago
outsider
The Feminist Mormon Housewives were really pissed about the European women's conference which featured three men, and there was a lot of mocking of the pastel invitation.
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9 years ago
outsider
Regardless of who was the one pushing, I content that they should have been a hell of a lot more careful.
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9 years ago
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Human Wrote: > > This is no longer on the server, which is why I > asked. No. Bullsh!t. This is what you first asked: "Out of curiosity, what institutions have tried to duplicate PEAR? Could you link to them?" After I tracked that down, you come up with : "From your link I learn that the experimenter used different methodology, so his results aren't an a
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9 years ago
outsider
If you are going to label my discussion of cold fusion a herring, then why the f@ck you are bringing up CERN? Since it appears that you are unable to use google, here you are: Furthermore, Stanley Jeffers, a physicist at York University, Ontario, has repeated the Jahn experiments but with chance results (Alcock 2003: 135-152). (See "Physics and Claims for Anomalous Effects Related to
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9 years ago
outsider
TBM will see other TBM's facebook feeds and think they are doing well. How little do they know what a tiny footprint they have in the world.
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9 years ago
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Human Wrote: > > Out of curiosity, what institutions have tried to > duplicate PEAR? Could you link to them? From the wiki entry: PEAR’s results have been criticized for deficient reproducibility. In one instance two German organizations failed to reproduce PEAR’s results, while PEAR similarly failed to reproduce their own results.[10] An attempt by York University’s
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9 years ago
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Yeah, I post on another board which used to have a few vocal Mormons who we'll called out the BS. Anyway for a while, they were insisting the people used the CoJCoLDS until the "And We're Mormon!" PR campaign. Silly.
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9 years ago
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And yet oddly enough, no other institution has been able to duplicate this. One wonders why. It couldn't possibly be because of bad methodology. I'm sure that it's another conspiracy, right?
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9 years ago
outsider
Where is Tal to complain about this? Or is this argument only repugnant when a famous atheist makes it?
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9 years ago
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Apparently for Tal, comparing raising children in a religious environment to child abuse is only bad if an atheist does it. Ex-mo posters get a free reign.
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9 years ago
outsider
> I mention this only to highlight that my concerns > about Dawkins, contrary to the ongoing bleatings > of the likes of "Steve Davis", have nothing to do > with disagreement about other issues. They only > concern opinions and/or behaviour which I think > most people would find troubling, foolish, and > even pernicious. Yet people on this board are saying
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