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Yesterday
messygoop
Utah woman caught pulling down another woman's skirt because it was showing too much. Messy adds- I grew up in the church outside of Utah and observed members taking matters into their own hands on many occasions. This story is unfathomable to most, but to those of us who grew up interacting with wackos experienced stuff like this all the time. https://www.yahoo.com/news/saying-she-state-em
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Yesterday
messygoop
I'm really pissed today. I'm the guy who was chastised, rebuked and humiliated at a youth activity for bringing 2 liter soda (Sunkist brand) and Eagle brand potato chips. The Sunkist was a word of wisdom violation- it wasn't a "known" caffeine loaded Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper or Mt. Dew. Somehow orange Crush was ok, but Sunkist was a no-no. Both the soda and chips were confiscated.
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2 days ago
messygoop
They were sent to the mission president's home for recuperation. Of the three whom I knew had been sent for the MP's wife to take care of them, I never saw or heard of them again. I believe that they were sent home due to nervous breakdowns and panic attacks. One crashed the missionary vehicle. Another one was hearing voices. The Holy Ghost told her that her companion was leading her astray
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3 days ago
messygoop
My mom wasn't so picky. She didn't make iced tea, but we had a set which were perfect for mixing chocolate syrup with milk. But so many others in the ward were concerned about the appearance of evil. A bunch of us would interrupt Brother Blowhard's singing on the way to the temple. As we passed the massive Budweiser brewery plant, We would shout in unison "This Bud's for You! The f
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3 days ago
messygoop
https://www.yahoo.com/news/utah-school-district-addresses-rumors-194357932.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall I don't understand this. This wasn't even addressed by Nelson at GC.
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4 days ago
messygoop
I was given a cheaply made one. I think primary teachers made us memorize a set of scriptures to earn one. One day I took the ring with a handful of pennies. Had a great day of watching the train in my town flatten pennies. The ring became part of the steel rail. Great outcome for a piece of junk.
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4 days ago
messygoop
I have a fractured youth where the youth leaders promised to stop for late lunch or early dinner after a youth temple trip. Keep in mind, the temple was 2.5 to 3 hours one way depending on traffic and how fast Brother Blowhard would drive. Blowhard loved to hear himself sing LDS hymns and he was so out of it that he didn't pay attention to slow moving trucks. Remember the days of agriculture truc
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5 days ago
messygoop
I don't think so. CTR sort of worked until people discovered the lies of the church. It leads to severe cognitive dissonance. In the long run, it works against the church.
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5 days ago
messygoop
I think that makes sense about marketing to young members. I think soda sales are way down. I am observing less of their product in other people's cart. The cost of their product has risen steadily.
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5 days ago
messygoop
There was a high councilor who was invited to an explorer activity~ these priest age young men (16 yr olds) who were rafting or canoeing at a lake. Someone in the group brought a six pack of Pepsi and this guy went berserk. Not only did he take away the soda while in their hands he slapped the guy who brought the filth to the activity. The whole group had to attend a special stake fireside whi
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5 days ago
messygoop
Cotton breathes better in hot and humid areas, but are not long lasting. A cotton blend is more durable. On my mission, half of my new cotton had holes within two weeks of day-to-day wear.
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5 days ago
messygoop
That's what the church says. The bosses (at my organization) claim that employees would rather work on Saturdays than come in on a Holiday. So guess what's expected now? You had better be willing to work 6 days a week to get projects done. I don't trust them. I shared a ward in Arizona that has several campouts. I didn't hear anything about hiking, riding horses, canoeing, or boating. Ev
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9 days ago
messygoop
As long as members pull down his pants to make sure he's wearing church underwear, spending 30M is no problem.
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9 days ago
messygoop
Forgot to ask about this- okay we all know the church plans GC on the first Sunday of April. This means that March (what a lucky month) has two fast and testimony meetings, correct? That's what I always remembered; hating March as a youth because of too many fast Sundays. So I was shocked that this Arizona ward had their F/T meeting this past Sunday instead of March. Did they forget and dec
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9 days ago
messygoop
Things like anxiety, depression and bipolarism. I don't remember filling at the missionary application. I do remember being sent to quack LDS doctor who tested my eyes by walking me into a dark closet. I had a regular set of doctors through my mom's HMO, but she chose the quack because it was so cheap and he would overlook any health concerns which would disqualify people from serving. One
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10 days ago
messygoop
I think Nelson is very vain. He probably informs his church handlers that he doesn't want to be seen as decrepit. Most of us acknowledge that Nelson is nearing 100 and are understanding that he may have difficulty walking, eating and speaking. But the church is deceptive. They believe in using trickery to fool the members. I hadn't thought about him suffering a stroke; it makes sense becaus
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10 days ago
messygoop
I endure watching streamed church so you guys don't have to. This was 4-14-24, which was their ward's fast & testimony meeting and I will ask a question about this in subsequent reply. This was taken from an Arizona ward. I noted their planned activities. They really don't know how to be creative or do something interesting to motivate the youth! Here's their upcoming events. Try to sta
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10 days ago
messygoop
The best revenge is to live well, be happy. You owe no explanations to anybody.
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11 days ago
messygoop
messygoop Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Moreover, the institute director (who routinely > made comments which suggested that he was > experiencing a faith crisis- I suspected that he > might have contemplating leaving the church when > the church disciplined the September Six) He would walk around and call us brother/sister and
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11 days ago
messygoop
I think Randy has a porn addiction problem and needs counseling from Jodi H.
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11 days ago
messygoop
Yeah, Jesus shows up at Temple Square and after he is detained by church security for 3 hours, he holds a press conference to announce that the only people worthy to lead his Team Jesus are the ones wearing his brand of Jesus jammies underwear. No, his team couldn't possibly be people who help others, volunteer with shelters. Nope. Just a bunch of narrow minded people who look for the sure sign o
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11 days ago
messygoop
-That's ironic, because the Mormons want investigators dunked ASAP. If they would make investigators take classes, attend church, and wait at least a few months, they might have a more lasting success. Some of us tried. I found a lot of resistance from established, long time members and church leaders in the wards/stakes (speaking as a church missionary). The mission that I was sent to had bee
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11 days ago
messygoop
We all know that the church encourages (if not mandates) any young person attending college to attend one once a week or twice a week religion class. The uptick to attending a church religion class was that it cost 10 or 15 dollar fee which allowed you to park on church property (parking lot) instead of buying a college parking permit which cost over 100 or more. I attended the church institute b
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11 days ago
messygoop
They used to announce a special stake meeting to address temple stuff. They USED to considered it improper to discuss sacred but now they have lost control over its members. Imagine members rejecting wearing undergarments which are uncomfortable, unflattering and out of date. I have shared my experience as a young man doing yard work at a member's house and having another member call me out fo
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12 days ago
messygoop
elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But didn't he allow bishops and SPs to give old > folk a break? > > Who was it that finally said everyone had to toe > the line? I nominate SWK. It may not have been him personally, but the big change began with church financial restructuring where all the money collected at the ward level bypass
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12 days ago
messygoop
I think more parents are permissive than previous generations. Current church leaders loathe this. I'm sure that they would love to call the lazy parenting out at GC, but the push back would be swift and severe. Today, there is less shame if one's missionary son or daughter can not complete a church mission. My mom has mellowed because she now denies that it would have been a problem had I bee
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12 days ago
messygoop
-or bringing in well educated people seem to be gone. Left about 40 years ago. We all know the church has very few activities remaining- Nobody joins a church to get excited about scrubbing toilets. My ward used to have a tribute to the ward's octogenarians. The young women interviewed and created a photo collage (poster) about their life's milestones. Most of these were non-church related.
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13 days ago
messygoop
Rubicon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nothing demonstrates the arrogance of the church > leadership more than the current ridiculous amount > of temple construction going on and this is only > the beginning of the clashes the church will have > with communities who don’t want a brightly lit > tacky religious building where they live.
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13 days ago
messygoop
summer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do you happen to know why that temple did not do > endowments? It's by invitation only. They really didn't know that they were going for baptisms. They brought their personal temple clothing with them, but had to change into baptismal jumpsuits instead. I don't think my mom would have gone for baptisms because she
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13 days ago
messygoop
Amazing Grace was performed during the evening session of GC. First time ever during a Mormon conference.
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