I wasn't there, but it's possible your neighbor was just making small talk and didn't mean anything by the comment. Over the years I've heard similar jokes about having to get a mini van, or having to trade in the two seat sports car. I really don't think the person meant any judgement or disrespect. Honestly sounds like friendly small talk to me. Just a thought
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LOL Cabbie, I thought you were on the wagon! What are you talking about old boy?
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As for the RfM poster CTK, let us simply hope he fully recovered. Many old timers drop in from time to time to touch base and recharge the batteries. Maybe we'll see him.
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Thanks Susie great post. I think all too often this whole process of shifting paradigms is minimized by those on the outside of the situation, as if it should be so simple just to walk away. One does not change who they are over night. For many of us Mormon was not a church but who we were.
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I love that one! :)
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A few years ago when I was still very much a TBM and my sons were young, I invited my father to go on a boating trip down to Lake Powell. My sons love Powell and skiing on the smooth glass water. I had a Monday holiday off so we planned the trip over a weekend. Well back then, skiing on Sunday was out of the question, but I decided we could take the boat from Bull Frog down to Rainbow Bridge, sor
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A few years ago when I was still very much a TBM and my sons were young, I invited my father to go on a boating trip down to Lake Powell. My sons love Powell and skiing on the smooth glass water. I had a Monday holiday off so we planned the trip over a weekend. Well back then, skiing on Sunday was out of the question, but I decided we could take the boat from Bull Frog up to Rainbow Bridge, so
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Heber J. Grant sent J Golden Kimball up to Idaho to check out a ranch the Church was considering buying. Upon his return he reported that there was some good mountain grazing and fertile bottom land with a stream running through it. President Grant wanted to know how wide the stream was. "well" says Kimball, "I could piss about half way across it". Grant was horrified that
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William Law certainly did not call for Smith's death, but only intended to expose polygamy. The destruction of the press did not result in a death sentence directly. BUT, the 1st amendment was held in reverence then perhaps even more than it is now. The destruction of any press to suppress freedom of speech was considered a serious crime. At the time Smith controlled large voting blocks and
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Cat Stevens didn't write Morning has Broken, but he did sing it. It is an old Christian hymn predating Yusef by decades. "Morning Has Broken" is a popular and well-known Christian hymn first published in 1931. It has words by English author Eleanor Farjeon and is set to a traditional Gaelic tune known as "Bunessan" (it shares this tune with the 19th century Christmas Carol
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Depends on if you count the Moon Quakers :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84u5k4bboU4
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It was Lorenzo Snow that moved tithing from voluntary to commanded, several decades ahead of N. Eldon Tanner.
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The local leadership, bishops, SP's do not benefit financially and are not so motivated. There's is only to follow the prophet without question, and in doing so "they and their house shall serve god". These men are not privy to money issues of the Church that extend beyond their own small organization. It is not so with the authorities at the general level, who are very much aware
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I was reading "Stunted's" post regarding non member or inactive member parents unable to attend temple weddings of their own children. Stop for just a moment and consider the greed and heinous intention of any organization that would do this to a family. Why would they do this to anyone? One word, MONEY. This is entirely a money issue. At the end of the day, pretty much everything
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This is entirely a money issue. At the end of the day, pretty much everything LDS Inc does is a money issue. As a former Bishop, MP etc. I can only make an estimate, but my estimate given my own experience is that "event" tithe payers make up as much as 20% of the Church's tithing revenue. Event tithe payers are those that have been remiss in the payment of tithes but for a perio
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The mission office will take his passport the first night he is there, they will hold it for "safe keeping" which includes keeping new elders from bolting. They'll tell him they need his passport in the office so the office elders can keep his visas up to date, which may in part be true. SOP for Western European missions
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Social Media, indeed none other than a facebook campaign is being credited for igniting the revolution in Egypt. Authoritarian regimes thrive best in the dark, do better in secrecy, and are powered best by fear. Social media allows the oppressed to unite more easily, it allows for empowerment as individuals join, share stories and plan together. Never in the history of the world has more i
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I know it seems like a crazy hoop to jump through, but until the bishop sends in his form with his signature signaling that he has verified your identity and you wishes, your name remains on the membership rolls of the church. There is no need to meet with him, but at minimum phone contact will most likely be required. Look at it from the Church's standpoint, they have to verify both your ide
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Before SLDrone was born in 2000, I posted here as Voice of Reason or VOR for a couple of years in the 97-99 timeframe. I wasn't so much trolling (by my definition) as trying to engage in conversation while still holding on to the last remnants of my faith. Then in 2002 through 2005 or so I posted frequently at Zion's Lighthouse Ministry (and intellectual board inhabited most by FAIR/FARMS fol
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What is the link to your blog?
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Oh that silly ole grizzly bear. You just can't stage manage him.
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Nah, money isn't a driving factor at the bishop level.
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nope.
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I'd be honored
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Of This I Am Tired We live in a world rife with superstition and mysticism. True thought and reason is so often replaced with the magic and folklore which makes up our world religions. Irrational dogma and doctrine is unexamined, unrefuted, and uncorrected. The thinking has been done by those with undisputed direct conduits to a higher power. God's thoughts are not our thoughts, how could we
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When I was a little boy my father taught me about the beginning and the end of the world and the 7,000 years of the milleniums. As a little boy I believed him, and so I knew that Adam and Eve the first humans had been placed in the Garden of Eden about 6000 years ago. I remember even as a young man, a returned missionary, arguing with a biology professor at the University of Utah. He patiently li
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Mountain Molassas Mascara - it's a dark eyeliner used primarily by Fundamentalist in Colorado City - Thanks for asking RfM
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To be fair, it appears that at the time of the meeting with the stake pres. there was no evidence of sexual molestation. As far as the new piece goes, there doesn't seem to be anything reportable to the police that occurred in the meeting. There were certainly red flags going up all over, it seems that Mrs. Brock's husband as well as the boys parents would and should have been on high alert.
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You know what I mean Mak, and yes I see them as victims of a fraud. Besides, I don't have any Mormon friends that would behave that way toward me, but I would never reject a friend just because he's Mormon. If he acted the way you are describing then absolutely he would not be my friend or on my facebook page anyway. Nice to see you by the way.
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