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4 days ago
slskipper
I like Sloop John B. IN all the encomia, please always remember that the Beach Boys were not paragons of virtue. They cheated a guy out of royalties. That guy's name was Charles Manson (yes, that Charles Manson). And they stole the melody for Surfin' USA from Chuck Berry, who sued them. I don't know the outcome of that- Google it if you're interested. So while one can praise Brian's musical t
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7 days ago
slskipper
“He was a good man, but he fell,” No, he wasn't a good man.
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15 days ago
slskipper
Okay, there are lots of reasons. But one that is usually overlooked has to do with their charter document. They all base their theology and world view on that weird book known as The Bible. That thing is so deeply entrenched in our cultural DNA that most people cannot conceive of life without it. NB: it can happen. But the essence of the Bible is that there is an entity who regularly intruded int
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15 days ago
slskipper
Following on from valkyriequeen: he will choose ChatGPT. And the members will thoroughly applaud his choice as the only divinely acceptable alternative.
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18 days ago
slskipper
They are missing the big story (unless I missed something). The big story is the horrors inflicted on women (and girls) in the name of garment readiness. Terrible, terrible shaming and humiliation and ostracism from "leaders" AT ALL LEVELS for those females who failed to conform. And then there is the double standard depending on your social status. The mainstream press continues to
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19 days ago
slskipper
Excuse me, but I would rather not wear a relative's used clothing. You never know where it's been!
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20 days ago
slskipper
Note: they water down the public rhetoric. But they never tell that to the members. So nothing really changes- and that's exactly what the system wants.
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24 days ago
slskipper
This board has been receiving several posts lately that seem to be unrelated to its original purpose, which is to offer help and comfort to people who have been harmed by Mormonism. I hereby present a small offering to bring it back to basics. With that said, here is my two cents. The whole point of Mormonism is to instill in everybody the conviction that they just are not good enough. Ever. I
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27 days ago
slskipper
And jokers to the right...
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27 days ago
slskipper
I have always thought that Brave New World more aptly describes our situation, with religion substituting for the soma. This is because large numbers of people actually like the way things are. In 1984 force was the instrument of control but in Brave New World it was the calming soma that assuaged the workers. And yes, Marx was right- socially and physiologically. Religion and opiates (and lots o
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4 weeks ago
slskipper
Wait, wait, wait- I thought they believed in small government and states' rights??????? Did I miss something???
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4 weeks ago
slskipper
It will make most people hate Mormons even more.
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4 weeks ago
slskipper
So they will make it a case of religious liberty.
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5 weeks ago
slskipper
Your dad is wrong.
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5 weeks ago
slskipper
Yeah- but already I'm sure Kirton McConkie is preparing briefs challenging the ruling. I will take bets. Loser buys dinner.
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6 weeks ago
slskipper
And as soon as Pace was gone, McConkie did a complete 180 and started writing books and hymns about how magnificent Jesus was.
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6 weeks ago
slskipper
I really hate all these claims about the superior mental health imparted by participation in religious institutions. Correlation is not causation. It's called survivor's bias: whoever disagrees is thrown out. Thank you.
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6 weeks ago
slskipper
really believe? As in: what can you really say in Sunday School that will not get you hauled in to the bishop's office? Examples: the BOM being actual history Examples of any current GA being wrong about something Curse of Cain and hundreds more. The Church (TM) has stopped talking about all of these- and yet if anyone tries to talk about them, they will swiftly be escorted out of the roo
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7 weeks ago
slskipper
Note: there is no law (as far as I know) that says we have to accept evangelical Protestantism as the only authorized version of everything that is good and right and socially requisite in religion or anything else. I for one never voted for them. Nobody is ever morally obligated to reassure evangelicals nor anybody else that Mormonism is the same as their theology. I really do not understand why
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7 weeks ago
slskipper
I take your point. However: I refer you to the "original" Grimm's fairy tales. Horrible scenarios. But they were totally fictitious, and they were absolutely told to amuse children- at least as I understand it. So maybe the flood thing was not meant to amuse, but rather to warn. Maybe it was a drama piece. Drama is usually very entertaining without amusing. But either way, I still s
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7 weeks ago
slskipper
IMO: we make a fundamental mistake when we try to link these stories to actual events. They could just as easily have started out as just entertaining stories, and trying to find the "original" is a fool's errand. Remember that per Plutarch, the Theseus/Minotaur thing probably started out by some guy who had to spend a weekend in a Cretan hoosegow. To repeat: just because something is i
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7 weeks ago
slskipper
We're lonely because religions keep kicking us out.
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2 months ago
slskipper
Around 1963, there were (IIRC) fifteen temples. One of my fellow Trail Builder Boys repeated his parents' declaration that when the sixteenth temple was built, it would be the one in Missouri and so we were so, so close...
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2 months ago
slskipper
The question turns the facts on their head. The burden of proof is squarely on the claimants. IOW: prove that there is a god.
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2 months ago
slskipper
What book?
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2 months ago
slskipper
It offers a sense of reassurance in a chaotic world. That chaotic world is elsewhere known as reality.
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2 months ago
slskipper
Never mind. I see that the bill would indeed allow Nazi and Confederate flags.
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2 months ago
slskipper
Maybe in the past. But more and more, the top tiers are being filled by those whose principal qualification seems to be wealth. And while their actual "salary" may be reduced, they are rewarded with every comfort a creature could ever imagine.
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2 months ago
slskipper
but not for the rich folks. And the rich folks are the ones at the top making all those rules. There are no rules for the upper leadership. Thank you.
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