Thanks for the affirmation. :)
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My TBM sister-in-law's now deceased parents were convinced they were going to live to see Armageddon from their perch where they lived with my brother and his wife in Twin Falls, Idaho. They would invite me to join them on their "family compound." That's where they were hunkering down for the end times, amidst the Idaho white militias groups and what nots around them. Not that they
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I got used to drinking skim milk, compliments of Weight Watchers. Now I don't drink anything else but skim milk, including with my coffee and tea. I used to love 2% or half&half. Also for sweetener I like either Stevia or Splenda, or Agave. Agave is the most natural, or maybe Stevia. I've never been one to enjoy my coffee or tea straight up black. There's a nice "light"
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I don't get as much benefit energy wise from drinking coffee as I do teas. Tea has more anti-oxidants in it along with less actual caffeine than coffee (usually about half,) but when I drink tea it gives me the metabolism boost I need to help me get through any housework, or other tasks that need an extra dose of energy. I like most varieties of black, white, and green teas. Since trip to Jap
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Lord Byron, Dylan Thomas, Edna St. Vincent Millay, Emily Dickinson, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Edgar Allen Poe.... oh, and Alfred Lord Tennyson, William Wordsworth, among many of the other greats from the Romantic era and early American. Kahlil Gibran another, and Antoine du Saint-Exepery'. I enjoy Maya Angelou's somewhat. She's been gone for almost one year already. Love Pearl Buck's pr
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My favorite method is not cost efficient. I just go to my favorite coffee brewery and order up a cup of joe (no pun intended lol,) with "triple triple." That's triple for cream but with skim milk instead, and triple for sugar but with Splenda instead. Only Tim Horton's brewery where I live knows that lingo, and McDonald's, because it's Canadian - and we're right below Canada. Ot
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I'm considering retiring to sunny St. George, Utah. What do you know about that area amidst the Mormon influence? I understand its profound history there. But it's becoming a growing retiree community from a diverse population - hoping once I am able to transition that the Mormon influence will be in waning mode, not waxing. It's far enough away from the heart of Mormondom (Salt Lake City
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The hardest part for me was leaving when my children were in pre-school and grade school. At that time I totally felt the "apostate" because I walked after some bitter persecution from living the Mormon lie. As someone had asked me, a Catholic convert to Mormonism, he knew that the church was either 100% true or 100% false because of the awful persecution it gave to other members - just
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My parents went inactive following their divorce, after having had a temple marriage. Neither though stopped believing altogether in Mormonism. They just didn't like the saccharin coated fakeness found @ church. Neither parent shunned me when I left. But I never stopped loving my parents, either in or when I was out of the church. Never considered that to be an option. My Mormon brothers
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I don't hate the Osmond's - in fact I loved them as a tweeny bopper, and then as a teenager - their music that is. And girls did swoon over Donny - he and Marie are close to the same age as I am. I feel sorry for them too. About their dad pushing them into show biz. Yet I would think that there came a time they had a choice to leave it or stay. It was those two who stayed, even as their broth
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SusieQ#1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Churches in general are happy to take anyone as a > member. Therefore, it is likely that there will be > a large variety of personalities and some with > mental illness or personality disorders. > Those of us that spent a long time in the LDS > Church probably saw a lot of different > personal
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My two TBM sisters-in-law are like that. When my brother married his wife she quit her job, and hasn't worked outside the home since. (Nearly 37 years later..) They had 3 bio kids, and 10 adopted. She trained the older children to take care of the younger ones because of her "chronic fatigue syndrome" she's had since they've been married, so she can sleep while the kids were taking care
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torturednevermo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Without labeling any dysfunctional behavior using > specific terms, I would say that the cult grooms > poor social behavior into people through it’s > culture and doctrines. > > They tell people they are god’s chosen ones, and > discourage any association with outsiders who are >
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Agreed. I saw lots of that when I was in it. It was very competitive too. The way members deal with each other, not that much unlike life outside the church, but in some ways it was inherently more competitive and combative to be a Mormon than a non-Mormon I've found, since leaving. Most of my adult friendships have been with non-Mormons. Have found I just have more in common, and with my
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That's funny. There was one time Donny Osmond sat through a sacrament meeting I attended a little more than ten years ago. He sat on the very back row, surrounded by a couple of bodyguards, with his head down, very low profile. As soon as the meeting ended, he was up and out of there before anyone knew who he was. I heard some others talking about him after he left, like it was meant to b
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Just wondering because it is filled with narcissistic personalities.. From Joseph Smith to Brigham Young, and down the line, to modern day.. the church seems to have more than its fair share of narcissistic personality types. Are they attracted to the church because of a narcissistic streak ie., get to become gods and goddesses and are already in embroyo, to the Mormon American princess p
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Happy birthday.. Your words remind me of an old ballad, (older than us?) ...Yesterday when I was young, the taste of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue .... sung by Charles Aznavour, https://youtu.be/SpJLtQmIv4o
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I consumed a great deal of chocolate as a Mormon. That was when I was supposedly caffeine free because I didn't consume tea or coffee, or caffeinated sodas. Fast forward to post-Mormon, and I rarely get cravings for chocolate these days. The only difference in my diet is I give myself permission to drink tea and coffee, and the occasional caffeinated soda. It was the caffeine all along th
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How sweet. Still, that's a lotta kids! The mama looks proud and happy. Growing up on a little farm in Idaho, one of our neighbors - a farming family, had 8 boys in a row. They finally gave up trying to have another baby so they could have a girl, and adopted a little girl instead. :)
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Thanks for sharing Wes' story here with us. It is a deeply touching and moving account of how faith can transition from one of being on the inside, to becoming on the outside of Mormondom. I continue to feel that I didn't give up any of my unique identity when I left Mormonism. Rather, leaving that mindset of indoctrination and brainwashing has helped me to understand my place in the worl
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I liked the morning sessions better than the evening sacrament service. Used to fake being sick in the evening so I could stay at home while my family went to sacrament, so I wouldn't miss the Sunday Disney movie feature of the week. That was a deal breaker.
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My parents took in one in the late 1960's. She stayed for one school year. I remember when our family went to meet her before the school year starting. There were busloads of Indian children being dropped off at a stake center. Where all the foster families were there to meet and greet them. There were dozens of them waiting to be placed with their foster families. That's how I got my fir
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Whole grains are healthy to eat, unless someone has an allergy to wheat. Coffee and tea have some health benefits. Caffeine isn't necessarily one of them, but that's what hooks people. Cigarettes and tobacco were correct in the issuing of the word of wisdom. But because Joe plagiarized so much from other people's works, I strongly feel he must've borrowed the ideas of the Word of Wisd
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I believe in life before life. Even were it not for Mormonism, just based on my personal experiences with several people I've met in this life. The first was someone I knew we'd known each other in a previous life. A strong deja vu experience enveloped me when we met, and on subsequent meetings. He was the father of the child I gave up for adoption at birth through LDS social services. An
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I love Samuel Clemens quotes. He lived his life with his eyes wide open lol. That brainwashing really starts from the day the children are born. When they get up as toddlers to recite their testimonies drilled to them by their parents, they sound like miniature robots of their elders - since they all parrot each other on fast and testimony Sundays. It's really shocking to see what pas
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It seems this discussion is confusing faith for brainwashing. Mormons are brainwashed, not simply clinging to the stagnant decaying religion because of some mystique or faith. They're indoctrinated to believe it is the only true church, and Joe Smith a prophet, and all the other nonsense that is spoon fed to its laymembers. It isn't faith that keeps them in it. Because faith can't exi
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When I resigned ten years ago, I sent in my request to Salt Lake City. I followed their instructions at the time. But then I let them know I had no interest whatsoever in going through my local ward or stake leadership. I called ahead, (Salt Lake records) and asked how to do that without going through local channels. They gave me their mailing address, told me how to phrase it, and they took
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Don't forget, unless the church changes its policies because it gets forced to by the courts, each one of us "apostates" and ex- former Mormons are going to be re-baptized by our family one year after we've checked out. If you people are as bothered about that as I am, maybe we could form a coalition and get something going to challenge that. One person doesn't get as much attention
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Amen to that. Happy Mom's Day. Without mothers, where would any of us be? I know there's good parenting and bad. And everything in between. Families today are not the traditional ones of my generation so much anymore. But through it all, people still need good role models, and if we don't get good mothering during our formative years, we all pay a price somehow. I'm reminded o
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^^^^Bumped for all the mothers and for all the children of mothers^^^^ Happy Mom's Day to those who care. :))
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