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6 years ago
txrancher
YES. I'm sorry, too.
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6 years ago
txrancher
LOL, yes, good. I saw something on the Discovery channel or some other one last week....some evidence that people did get on boats in British Columbia or near there and came down the coast. Not the same as coming from the Middle East, lol.
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6 years ago
txrancher
I like this, lol!
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6 years ago
txrancher
Thanks for the responses, lol--they are all great bit of advice and welcomed. I will add this: Although he sounds like he's trying to get under my skin, the truth is (I am certain) that he desperately wants to be my friend. He always has. He just has a knack for saying something stupid in the process of trying to be witty or smart. I used to know him in an old ward about a dozen years ago
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6 years ago
txrancher
My take: OK, it's really just a supposition, but based on experience working at a university at the highest level... He didn't commit any horrible "sin." He simply didn't believe anymore and whether he expressed this explicitly or not, someone or some people decided that he was a liability. There must have been enough evidence to excommunicate him, though. Not public but available
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6 years ago
txrancher
I got this inane email from someone I haven't spoken to in years about my son going on a mission. How did he even get my email?? And any communication in that time has included some insensitive and stupid comments. I dropped him from social media years ago, but somehow he still stalks me. Here it is. I was thinking of ignoring it, but maybe I'll respond...if I feel like it will be hurtful (I'
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6 years ago
txrancher
I came back fine. But I also left fine...I didn't take myself too seriously and kept my sense of rebellion during my mission. But, yes, I've heard about a lot of guys coming back very self-righteous and superior. I was somewhere in the middle: Believing but rational and not going to let anyone tell me what to do. I think that kept me from going mad OR going too deep into the morg. I felt
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6 years ago
txrancher
Very respectful, kind, and nostalgic. Thanks--
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6 years ago
txrancher
One note...although I've had a lot of flings with a lot of women in the last four years--a lot--and as interesting as a threesome sounds, even my brain cant get past the mindfuc* that might result from being with a person I LOVE and an object at the same time. For me it would be too much of a risk.
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6 years ago
txrancher
I skimmed the responses. Lots of good comments and thoughts. Mine... I also commend you for not judging her. She is being honest and not hiding anything, as far as you believe or know. Support her, yes. But it's like any other relationship....heterosexual or not. She is married to you and that is a commitment. Not judging her for her desires is great, but I wouldn't go the step of allowing
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6 years ago
txrancher
Yikes. Google it and oh wow. Wife likes to smoke pot. I get that...she's got an ailment that pot helps, no problem. But, y'know...not exactly in line with the teachings and stuff...
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6 years ago
txrancher
^^ Agreed Two of my three kids don't like the church or want anything to do with it. The third, I think, doesn't either but is pretty quiet about his feelings. Mostly because of the wackiness of the church.
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6 years ago
txrancher
I agree...interest income can be used as they wish. I would *think* that missionary fund money is being used for mission work (although maybe for things that the donor doesn't expect like paying for presidents' homes, MTC, etc.) but YES interest income can be used for ANYTHING and I'm sure is.
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6 years ago
txrancher
So much to say....lol. My 19 year old bride, a virgin (I am to believe and absolutely do not think otherwise) was not as, ahem, one would think as a virgin on our wedding night. She was sufficiently lubricated au natural :) Yet did not seem as one would think as untouched. Oh well. But a 32 year old and 38 year old I was with...very different. Different as in difficult to enter. Even sufficien
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6 years ago
txrancher
"Consider doing things that will persuade your wife that just maybe it is NOT church that makes life and relationships good." Absolutely. This is the BEST advice, I think, for couples in this situation.
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6 years ago
txrancher
^^ Yesssssss
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6 years ago
txrancher
I see it several ways.... Yes, white males have been in (too much) control. Things are changing, though, and that's good. BUT...not in the LDS church. That's a bad thing. I'm all for diversity. But not at the expense of demonizing people (unless you are an organization that systematically and continuously denies power to others.) No quotas, just be fair. I am a white male, but I have a S
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6 years ago
txrancher
Haha, yes...and I think there is value in that. I say have fun with them. Make them work. And the bonus is that you get to laugh. I did that for a few years. Then I realized that they really did have me marked as "do not contact" (it was notated on my record I saw on the online membership record." Damn. A good thing for me because I really didn't want contact. But part of me wan
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6 years ago
txrancher
I get the point...LDS are somehow against beards. A few years ago when I was in the bishopric and grew a beard, one member (branch president of the singles ward) said on one more than one occasion, "Looks like a a dead cat on your face." WTF. I just gave him a look like I didn't care, but I should have said "F off." An otherwise nice guy but really? Just say, "It's
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6 years ago
txrancher
My two brothers are both out. That makes 3 of 4 kids who are DONE with this scam.
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6 years ago
txrancher
Agreed! Bravo. I had a talk with my 22 year old daughter this year....turns out she opened up and said, "Yes! It's a total cult!" Wow, until we talked about it, I had no idea that she was that disgusted by it. Talked with my 13 year-old about the church just a couple days ago. Told her that--as she knows--people bear their testimony of the truthfulness of the church and that's OK.
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6 years ago
txrancher
Ha ha, this afternoon there were 30 comments on the LDS Living website about this article--even after it had been edited--and now, viola, there are no more. "Closed for comment" and all the earlier posts deriding the article are GONE. Some people can't handle the truth.
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6 years ago
txrancher
"When you are fooled so deeply, how could you possibly believe in anything else? You start to question not only Mormonism, but Jesus and God himself." I have to agree.
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6 years ago
txrancher
It's been several days since I received notice of acknowledgement that "I'm out." Yeah, I know that as soon as they receive notice, it's official. But the acknowledgement is sweet...knowing that they have to declare I'm no longer a member. No regrets. In fact, I can't imagine why it has taken so long (about 3-4 years). Saw a member the other day in the store--first time in sever
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6 years ago
txrancher
Seriously thought he was dead a long time ago :/ Remember in the early 90's seeing him in "Ed Wood" playing an aged Bela Legosi and thinking, "yeah, great role and glad he got to play one more part because he's really good." I guess he was just good at playing an aged actor--acting!--and glad he lasted a long time.
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6 years ago
txrancher
Agreed--and they make it out like this kind of thing was "normal" at the time, wasn't against the law, etc. They have very few answers for the fact a) polygamy was against the law, b) he hid it from Emma, and c) it violated EVERY aspect of D&C 132. The only apologist thing I've read was, "Well, God's instructions take precedence over man's laws." So I guess the who
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6 years ago
txrancher
VERY good question! I never knew, wow. But I'm sure TBMs would come up with a good explanation, lol.
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6 years ago
txrancher
Expect.... 1. You will (WILL) give 10% of your income to the church. 2. You will (WILL) accept any calling at church they give you. Teaching, visiting others, etc. Cleaning the church, yup. 3. You will be encouraged (PUSHED) to visit the temple. That means you have to start wearing god-awful underwear, submit to ritualistic handshakes, and promise all you have to the church. 4. You show up
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6 years ago
txrancher
So was the young woman in question Mary or Sarah? Or Maria...
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6 years ago
txrancher
I don't see anything in the thread link about Bishop Snow
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