Disaster looms, apparently: https://news.yahoo.com/great-salt-lake-dries-utah-185303576.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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See my article on this at http://packham.n4m.org/animals.htm A Mormon's Ode To His Dinner O leg of lamb, how glad I am That you will live again! When next we meet, you won't be meat, So we'll be friends in Heav'n.
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In practicing magic (casting spells, etc. - not stage illusionism) if you don't say the actual words absolutely perfectly, the magic doesn't work. (Which is the explanation magicians give when they don't get results.) Mormons share this belief with most Christians in one area: cursing. They believe that it is sinful to say things like "damn," or "Jesus Christ!" or "Hel
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Ziller wrote: >faust was a satanist No, you obviously are unfamiliar with Goethe's Faust. Faust made a bet with Mephistopheles (who was NOT "Satan"). He had mastered theology. He enjoyed Easter. And in the end, when he dies and we think he is doomed to hell, the angels announce "He is SAVED!" He may have believed in Satan (or the Devil), but so do most Christia
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Which is more important: the words or their meanings ? In the classic drama "Faust" Goethe has Faust discuss this question as he starts to translate John's gospel: "In the beginning was the Word." Faust pauses, and decides that it's not the Word that does anything, so he changes his translation to say "In the beginning was the Meaning." Mormon doctrine, in
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The Mormons are also referred to in Jeremiah: Jeremiah 17:5-6 Thus saith the LORD; Cursed the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. 6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, a salt land and not inhabited. For more Bible prophecies
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bradley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Doesn't polygamy mess up the math? Yes. My answer was assuming that there was no kind of marriage except between people who were otherwise unrelated. When cousins marry, or when children are "half-" whatever (as in the case of polygamy, each instance will halve the degree of distance. But that should not ma
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Do the math: each generation of cousins shares twice as many common ancestors as the previou generation. And eacn generation "removed" also doubles the number of common ancestors. Quick answer: they are the same.
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Actually, my favorite Mormon scripture that *I* can get behind with no ifs, ands, or buts: 2 Nephi 2:25 "Men are, that they might have joy."
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There's a passage in the Book of Mormon which condemns churches who use their wealth to build fancy buildings but neglect feeding the poor. (1 Nephi 22:23, 4 Nephi 1:26) Another passage condemns churches that try to be popular. (1 Nephi 22:23)
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There was a folk song in the old West, based on the fact that some people there had gone to start a life without a past. It implies that the first line was a standard question of new-comers: "What was your name in the States? Was it Murphy or Johnson or Bates?" (five or six more verses followed, all guessing why the fellow had come west) It is a common practice among Mormons to
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Probably the oldest version is the one in Ex 34, since it's from the "J" document. Then probably the Ex 20 version, from "P". The Deut 5 is, naturally, from the D document, which is likely the scroll discovered during Josiah's reign.
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Christians (and Jews) make a big thing about obeying the Ten Commandments. But WHICH version? Most Christians are unaware that there are three versions in the Bible. Most cite the version in Exodus 20. But there is another version in Deuteronomy 5, which is similar. (The main difference is giving a different reason for the commandment about the Sabbath.) And Christians completely ignore the
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It was partly influenced by the Mithras worshippers, which were very numerous in the early days of Christianity. Mithras was the god of the sun, and Sun-day was his day. (Mithraism also contributed more to Christianity: the birth on Dec.25, baptism in blood, birth witnessed by shepherds, etc.) The Romans also called it "the Lord's day," and it was observed as special. Early Chiristians
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Kentish Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > the BOM was produced in 1830 but it is purported to be of ancient origin and touted as > having the "fullness of the gospel". Along with many fundamental beliefs of Mormonism those claimed ancients made no mention of it in their preserved narrative. For a listing of some of those, see "The Book of
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I've always thought it odd that Christian apologists try to argue that Paul merely mentioned the practice, but did not endorse it. But then why did he use it as proof that the dead live again? He thought the practice had value as proof of an afterlife.
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One thing maybe the Mormons got right that Christians criticize them for: https://news.yahoo.com/does-bible-loophole-passage-getting-011738344.html (I am not defending Mormonism!)
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Years ago a Christian friend urged me to read the whole Bible. As a Mormon I had only used it as a reference and by occasionally reading a story here and there. But I began, with his challence, to read. And I kept notes. I kept getting the feeling that something I just read was saying the opposite of something I had read before, and with my notes I could confirm it. I also began to read critic
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I have a list of Mormon teachings and practices that are contrary to the BoM: "The Book of Mormon vs. Mormonism" http://packham.n4m.org/bomvslds.htm
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elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I saw the other book, but I did indeed download, > for free, the mormon Hans Mattson kindle version > of his book. Please, details! What is the exact title?
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The free Kindle book on Amazon is NOT authored by the former LDS Seventy who left the church. It is by a former American consul in India named Hans Mattson, and published in 1891.
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This was one of a series of 13 posts over several months. The entire series is now at http://packham.n4m.org/stump.htm
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onthedownlow Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry I posted that without stating it directly > with John's website being ordered to take it down > legally? > > And secondly, yes I would like to hear the 3rd > part if it is posted somewhere? I think John took down Part 3 simply as a courtesy to my sister's family, and to prevent any leg
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onthedownlow Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone know if John has done a mormon stories > podcast with Richard Packham? Yes, John interviewed me about ten years ago. It is audio only, in four parts. The third part was pulled because of objections from members of my expanded family. I have a copy of the third part, for anyone interested. Here
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I just got an email from someone asking me about Paul Gregersen's YouTube videos on the Book of Abraham, claiming that he can prove it is true and challenging any Mormon critic to prove him wrong. I had never heard of him, but I watched one of his videos for about five minutes. The guy is off the wall, but a good example of how a crazy Mormon apologist works. Just search YouTube for his name.
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Our local paper (Roseburg, Oregon) has reported the arrest of a 19-year-old man for sex with a juvenile. He claims it was consensual and occurred on several occasions. He says he met the girl at the "Jesus Christ Church of Latter-day Saints."
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https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article256626976.html In my hometown! The girls were going around the neighborhood leaving thank you notes, and were on the sheriff's front porch. Mormonism in action!
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Mormon Scriptures Condemn Lying and Liars D&C 50:17-18 17 Verily I say unto you, he that is ordained of me and sent forth to preach the word of truth by the Comforter, in the Spirit of truth, doth he preach it by the Spirit of truth or some other way? 18 And if it be by some other way it is not of God. D&C 93:24-26 24 And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were
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Perhaps the Brethren are realizing that the cafeterias were contrary to scripture: The temple is to be a "house of fasting." (D&C 109:16) "And that this house may be a house of prayer, a house of fasting, ..." Fasting has never been a part of the temple rituals. Any Mormons who may feel the need to fast before entering the temple are not doing so in obedience to
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Anybody who claims that the BoM is not a historical book is contradicting the Prophet himself, who wrote in the "Wentworth Letter: "In this important and interesting book the history of ancient America is unfolded, from its first settlement by a colony that came from the Tower of Babel, at the confusion of languages to the beginning of the fifth century of the Christian era."
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