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10 months ago
RPackham
RPackham Wrote: > > There doesn't seem to be a connection with > Mormonism: > https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4587882/bio/?ref_=nmpu > b_sa_1 I apologize deeply for my mistaken information!
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10 months ago
RPackham
auntsukey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it an eye-opening look at sex-trafficking or an > LDS/QANON exploitation. > > Is Tim related to Elder Ballard? > > Why did Disney shelve the film? > > Is crowd-sourced Angel films an LDS company? > > Have you seen the movie? Thoughts? There doesn't seem to be a connection
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10 months ago
RPackham
One of the most well-known and beloved old Mormon hymns that comforted the Saints as they trekked to Zion is "Come, come Ye Saints," where each verse ends with the phrase "All is well, all is well!" But the Book of Mormon specifically condemns anyone saying that all is well in Zion: 2 Nephi 28:21,25 - "Woe be unto him that crieth: All is well!" For more contrad
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11 months ago
RPackham
If you combine Mormon doctrines on "authority" with the D&C 121:37ff teaching that the priesthood authority will be withdrawn if improperly used, the Mormon cannot come up with an explanation - see http://packham.n4m.org/authority.htm
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11 months ago
RPackham
There are about a dozen questions in my article "How to Stump a Mormon" at http://packham.n4m.org/stump.htm More are at "Unasked questions about Mormonism" http://packham.n4m.org/unasked.htm Another good one: JS taught in "Teachings of the Prophet JS" that one way to identify a false revelation is that it contradicts a previous revelation. I can think of
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12 months ago
RPackham
I hate Google with a passion! Somehow my Google password got lost, and it has been completely impossible for me to retrieve it, or to open a new account. I have tried dozens of times over the past year, and Google does not even have a "help" option other than their users' forum. I follow their instructions, but the last step is always to send them a "code" that they send me
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1 year ago
RPackham
Lots of laughs: https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200000162/s01-e102-andrew-hobbs-a-joke-unless-it-works?autoplay=true
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1 year ago
RPackham
I have long ago done this analysis: see my FAQ "Is Mormonism a Cult?" at http://packham.n4m.org/cult.htm
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1 year ago
RPackham
To get a feeling of the truth about this, compare membership claims in countries where the census asks your religious affiliation. Consistently the church records claim three or four times as many members as citizens who claim affiliation with the church. Although it isn't up to date, I reported some comparisons in "FAQ: How many exmormons are there?" http://packham.n4m.org/morexm
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1 year ago
RPackham
The whole idea of the Restoration is trouble for the Mormon claims. I discuss this thoroughly in my article "Apostasy and Authority" at http://packham.n4m.org/authority.htm In the final analysis it falls apart.
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1 year ago
RPackham
See my list of contradictions in Mormonism at http://packham.n4m.org/contra.htm And in the Bible at http://packham.n4m.org/bible.htm#CONTRA
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1 year ago
RPackham
No! I GAINED a testimony: that the Mormon church was not true. In the spirit of truth and knowledge, I bear my personal testimony to all. I know, as well as anyone can know anything, that the Mormon church is not what it claims to be; that it was not established by divine guidance; that it is not directed by divinely inspired leaders; that Joseph Smith was not a prophet, but rather a swindler,
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1 year ago
RPackham
In my home town in Idaho (Blackfoot) the former stake tabernacle (what nowadays would be called the stake house) is today a mortuary. https://www.hawkerfuneralhome.com/
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1 year ago
RPackham
Nobody has come up with any such mention. Don't think that Christian apologists haven't tried. Desperately.
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1 year ago
RPackham
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/key-takeaways-aps-report-chinas-influence-utah-98149071 Prominent Utah officials favoring China, influential Chinese joining LDS, etc.
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1 year ago
RPackham
Nightingale wrote: >My biggest problem was thinking you cannot go back on sacred promises,... A covenant is a contract, based on mutual promises and on the existence of certain facts understood and accepted by both parties. I promise to do this if you promise to do that. Both legally and morally, if one party doesn't keep his part of the bargain, or if it should turn out that the basi
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1 year ago
RPackham
See my article "Mormon Lying" at http://packham.n4m.org/lying.htm It has all the details, and more examples.
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1 year ago
RPackham
Hmm... That's more serious than most people think. Put the following together: D&C 129:7 7 ...it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceive;... 2 Nephi 9:34 34 Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell. Jeremiah 48:10 Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully... AND THEN: Doctrine & Covenants (D&C)121:36-37 says th
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1 year ago
RPackham
Nowadays when we think of a "book" we imagine a stack of pages, usually paper, covered with writing and connected at one edge. It may have a cover or not. But it was not always so. In ancient times when people talked about a "book" they were referring to what we call a "scroll." Our "book" is technically a "codex" (plural: codices). Now, here
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1 year ago
RPackham
A Mormon who lives in Salt Lake Discovered the church is just fake. He told his dear wife Who threatened his life. He now has a tough choice to make.
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1 year ago
RPackham
I have two examples, from devout Mormons who know me well, that make me think that Mormon "repentance" isn't what it's supposed to be. One, an older man and former bishop, committed adultery with his wife's friend. He confessed to his wife and his bishop, and was disfelowshipped for a year. He commented later to me that it was worth it - "she sure wasn't like my wife!" A
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1 year ago
RPackham
Mormons, like other "Restorationist" churches, believe that there was a general apostasy from the church as founded by the Apostles. But that idea is vague in Mormonism - they can't tell you exactly when it began or ended, but they say the original church ultimately lost its authority through sin and changing doctrine (apostasy). But the doctrines of authority and apostasy are a doub
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1 year ago
RPackham
"Codex"is a technical term usually applied to an ancient method of preserving large amounts of writing. It means multiple leaves of materials (parchment, papyrus, paper or such) with writing, held together at one edge. Today we call it a "book". The description of Mormon's "gold plates" (and perhaps also Laban's "brass plates") fits that definition: they w
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1 year ago
RPackham
Maybe I'm being superficial or nit-picking, but I watched the short part with Nelson, and what struck me (as it often did with Monson) is the robot-like delivery, merely mouthing words, with phony attempts to portray sincerety with artificial facial expressions or gestures. Like a bad actor who is not in character, just saying the lines.
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1 year ago
RPackham
schrodingerscat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > https://youtu.be/iiknvBvVRG8 > > Even though neither the Prophet or his counselors > chose to serve. Some people criticize older General Aurhorities who urge young men to go on a mission that they themselves (the GAs) never served a mission. That criticism is not entirely justified. The idea tha
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1 year ago
RPackham
https://news.yahoo.com/mormon-manson-family-mexican-massacre-000827660.html Mormon polygamy in the news - new book by Denton
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1 year ago
RPackham
Bowen is a Mormon; claims he has discovered a now-forgotten Mexican priest who claims Mexico was Christianized 2000 years ago, and that's "evidence for the Book of Mormon." His talk at Sons of the Utah Pioneers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvpdzktXaxU
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1 year ago
RPackham
News reports that Mormon crickets are devastating crops in eastern Oregon and nearby. I wonder how soon the Brethren will issue a press statement requesting reporters to refer to them as "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints crickets"? Otherwise it's a victory for Satan.
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1 year ago
RPackham
You can read about our visit to Nauvoo and Carthage in 2001 here: http://packham.n4m.org/travelog.htm You might find some interesting insights - we found it quite hilarious sometimes (Mormons don't realize how dumb they sound)
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1 year ago
RPackham
See my list at http://packham.n4m.org/list2.htm Also, books even a Mormon would be willing to read: http://packham.n4m.org/not-anti.htm
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