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8 years ago
perky
With regard to BYU students and teachers, you can't leave because it will add years to your college career (most schools wont accept lots of byu credits due to religious bias). Professors cant leave due to the job. Im guessing there are lots of students & profs staying because they are stuck. I tsught at byu idaho and got booted because I no longer had a recommend. I went eent into it kno
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8 years ago
perky
It ain't easy being a cold reader and psychic. Sometimes you just have to rinse and repeat - just change the names.
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8 years ago
perky
Same thing with the masons. Don't become a Mason - you might see J Smith copied the temple stuff from them It's a cult.
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8 years ago
perky
The Greek philosopher Epicurus’s old questions about God as related this this subject are yet unanswered: Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? then is he impotent. Is he able, but not willing? then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? whence then is evil? From Wiki
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8 years ago
perky
This book helped us understand my wife's neck problem. https://www.amazon.com/Myofascial-Pain-Dysfunction-Trigger-Extremities/dp/0683083678
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8 years ago
perky
I think once you are dead, you are gone. However, and yes I know about confusion of correlation and causation, the book referenced below contains lots more than just coincidental observations about consciousness and NDEs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Fenwick_(neuropsychologist) https://www.amazon.com/Art-Dying-Peter-Fenwick/dp/0826499236 Also, some people claim we know what cau
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8 years ago
perky
I was surprised last night when DW asked me if it was ok if she recycled all the old (formerly cherished) scriptures that had been gathering dust in a prominent place in our house. She even threw out Jesus and the her old well marked-up Bible. Apparently she doesn't care any more if TBM relatives come over and see the scriptures are gone. She obviously sees no need to read the good book ag
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8 years ago
perky
I doubt it. I don't think he is a human.
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8 years ago
perky
DW just got her DNA results. Lots of neanderthal variants. Anyone know where we can get neanderthal names so she can do her temple work? What is that? The first token of the Arronic P-hood. Has it a name? It has. Will you give it to me? Ice Age Og the Cave Man!!!
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8 years ago
perky
Amazing how at the time it seems so important and critical. Now it's just BS and a total joke.
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8 years ago
perky
Ha Ha - I wish I would have thought of that. By TBM brother was even upset by it.
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8 years ago
perky
My mom recently passed away and we had a good send off at a funeral home. No bishop presiding etc., but since my mom was an active member her entire life the ward did the lunch. We appreciated it, but just wanted to say the ward bishop called and asked us to pay for the ham. My mom was active and paid tithes etc., her entire life and they ask us to pay for the ham - unbelievable. It's not t
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8 years ago
perky
Thanks for the information and references to consider. A complex system not easily understood, but looks like science is getting closer. Australian biologist Jeremy Griffith also suggests that when humans evolved a nerve based memory it lead to consciousness and the ability to compare experiences. Griffith also suggests the human condition (people are capable of great good and bad) is a r
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8 years ago
perky
No one knows what causes consciousness, so I'm not sure how we can be so sure it goes away when we die - nothing outside the body. I agree science points to the idea that when we die we are done - but until someone explains consciousness, I don't see how you can totally discount NDEs.
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8 years ago
perky
Try the Art of Dying by Dr Peter Fenwick. In the book he documents lots of accounts that can't all be coincidences. He also documents recurring events before death. I starting reading this when my mom got really ill and wanted to know how I could possibly help her. http://skeptiko.com/64-near-death-experience-research-dr-peter-fenwick/
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8 years ago
perky
I think so...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhk4N9A0oCA
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8 years ago
perky
Skiing, Mexican food and now a little drink.
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8 years ago
perky
Thanks for the advice. I did not take it personally. I don't want to be an another cult! :)
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8 years ago
perky
Thanks for reading. Voices in the head was just my way to say we all have a good and evil side. For the science: https://www.humancondition.com/ "I have no doubt FREEDOM provides the holy grail of insight we have sought for the psychological rehabilitation of the human race. This is the book we have been waiting for, it is the book that saves the world.” Professor Harry Pros
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8 years ago
perky
Platos cave is one attempt to understand the human condition. The human condition means we as humans can be both good and loving and incredibly hateful etc.. Why do we have good and bad "voices" in our head? Here is a science explanation of the human condition. Humans evolved instincts to be good and help one another. After we evolved instincts to be good we developed a conscio
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8 years ago
perky
How about the oath of vengence that was in the old temple ceremony. "You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease to pray to Almighty God to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the third and fourth generation.[2]"
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8 years ago
perky
Yes indeed - great idea
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8 years ago
perky
Like I said, I have know this guy for a long time. I was in shock. He walked a little miffed because I did not say much or agree with anything he said.
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8 years ago
perky
A long time friend and recently called stake missionary came by today to "warn" me I better come back to church OR ELSE. The big message was Jesus is on the way and the cleansing could start soon. He started off the conversation asking me about my "happiness factor." I am guessing he asked this because the church likes to preach that happiness only comes through the chur
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8 years ago
perky
Yuck - what a bunch of sleaze balls - if true
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8 years ago
perky
The same "mo-logic" applies to all kinds of stuff. Science and religion lead to different conclusions (earth 6000 yrs old or 4.5 billion). Well, we don't everything, but someday when we die we know it all. Another kind of opposite play is: we can burn up all the resources on earth and who cares about the future because Jesus is a comin and earth was made just for man.
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8 years ago
perky
We all do and if the goddess ain't happy ain't nobody happy
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8 years ago
perky
Yes, it's called nature and it's much better, more powerful etc., than Jesus, zues, Muhammed etc. Nature lets us be part of it and understand it.
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8 years ago
perky
No one can be put in a box as suggested by the article. Sure you can generalize, but there are a million exceptions to every generalization. This kind of stuff also makes it easier to look down on others because they are in this or that box. What is the overall point of the article?
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8 years ago
perky
I watched a couple of these. No surprise LDS Inc needs to keep up with the issues. Looks like Kate Kelley is right. No women needed at these shows.
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