:) I've never written my story, I try to be enigmatic. Actually, I've been looking at some of the essays I wrote that are in the archives and thinking I could thread them together into a good story. Now for the motivation! Thanks for all you do.
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LOL Susan, are you talking to yourself again? :)
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I disagree about the analogy being bad but I think I need to make it more clear. My delivery was poor that's for sure. I don't expect him to abandon his gay crusade or change who he is, only to realize that there is more to life than one all consuming issue. He's in a constant state of anger and lashing out, even where no offense was intended. I recognize in him a lot of the characteristics I ha
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In the early years of RfM that was always my style and it was understood and accepted as such. We all wrote my essays together, and some of them got pretty long. After years of not posting, my mistake was just blundering in assuming I was speaking to the same old crowd. And you are right, introducing two controversial subjects in one thread caused a lot of confusion.
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You are wrong, I did not say there was an end to recovery. I was saying that recovery was something to control and balance. But I did go back and edit my post to clarify, largely based on the way you were taking what I had said. Regardless of my intent it was being misunderstood. I don't blame the reader for this, I blame the writter. You've been here a long time Mak, you know what I believe
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Still, I appreciated the vote of confidence. It was interesting for me to watch the thread unfold. Many of the responses did not accurately reflect what I had written, but rather expressed anger at what ever thing was triggered by the idea of "just get over it". Something I never said or thought. Some wounds run very deep.
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Thanks Nightingale, It was interesting and a little surprising to watch the thread unfold and it showed me just how raw these feelings really are. There are very few things in life that can create wounds so deep, perhaps because religion promises so much, exacts so much and then delivers nothing. Had I written the same little essay 4 or 5 years ago, it would have been taken together with all m
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Are you kidding, Susan is a Saint and does a job few could do day in and day out. Eric has too many people counting on him. This website has helped thousands of people, even those that never post a word. My original post was about balance not abandonment.
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Great point old friend.
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As for my gay friend, he's a very good friend of 20 years. He's not newly out at all, but he is very militant about his beliefs and doesn't seem to be able to find a life balance. I have no problem with him being gay, in fact I love that about him, it suits him. But I think there is more to life than sexuality gay or straight. Sometimes I just want to say, "give it a rest, sometimes a cigar
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Don't worry about me, I'm an old timer on these boards and I've been flamed by the best of them. You should have seen some of the flat out brawls Daniel Peterson and I used to have on Lighthouse Ministry. As for my gay friend, he's a very good friend of 20 years. He's not newly out at all, but he is very militant about his beliefs and doesn't seem to be able to find a life balance. I have no p
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Don't worry about me, I'm an old timer on these boards and I've been flamed by the best of them. You should have seen some of the flat out brawls Daniel Peterson and I used to have on Lighthouse Ministry. As for my gay friend, he's a very good friend of 20 years. He's not newly out at all, but he is very militant about his beliefs and doesn't seem to be able to find a life balance. I have no
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Actually I wasn't referring to you specifically but just what you said, all of which I agree with. :)
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Love it and great to hear from you! I love the analogy of the burn scars. Thanks for that.
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It takes time. One day you'll take the leap and then look back and smile at how daunting it seemed at first.
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I like what you have to say too, great post.
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No Mac, I wasn't talking about you at all, I was just making a general statement about recovery. It is not up to me to decide the path or the time it takes. As I've said, it took me 10 years and for half of that I was consumed. I'm pretty sure I would have fought back had someone tried to nudge me along at anything other than my own pace.
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See if you like my edits.
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I agree that everyone has their own time frame and their own process.It took me about 10 years. Clearly someone who reacts negatively to the idea of being recovered is a long way from the end of their solitary journey. I'm not trying to be condescending but rather to give hope.
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Then as friends we disagree on that point. I think recovery should lead to recovered, but maybe not so easy to define. My original post might need a little editing.
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If you look forward, how do you envision feeling better? What does recovery mean for you?
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I didn't mean to suggest anyone should "wind it down" or short change their recovery. I'm sorry if I came across that way. My "exmormonism" consumed me for a long time, maybe for a bit too long. FOR ME it felt better when I allowed myself to stop being angry. You are one of the few that remember the massive amount of time I spent on this board. I will always be an exmormon,
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n/t
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If you asked him that question he would say, "honey I was born out", and he nearly was, but being out has become WHAT he is. What you said about recovery is spot on and well said. Recovery takes time and has it's season. When one sets out on the journey of recovery there should be a goal, a definition of what recovery means and a way to recognize when your goal has been achieved. Th
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I have a friend who is gay. He's not just gay, he lives to be gay. Everything he does is gay, he goes to gay parades, he goes to gay bars he goes on gay cruises, the only thing he knows about the Supreme Court is their rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, but he couldn't name a single justice. He runs a gay support group, he goes to movies with a group of gay friends. He's a one note song, the gay note. I
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All these years later, I'm still in love with Karen Carpenter. 30 years ago today Karen's heart failed due to anorexia and she passed. What is your favorite Carpenters song? I think I'd have to go with Merry Christmas Darling or Our Day Will Come. How about you? http://youtu.be/7ba8XDbh2FA
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ahhh, that's a twist, were they contemporary? By the way Alex, when are you going to come North to Sandy and buy me a lager and chips at Red Rock?
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n/t
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I believe the decision to postpone the meeting was absolutely directed from SLC. I also have no doubt that Twede's days as a mormon are numbered. I'd say somewhere around 41.
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religion has no hope of being rational
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