Why yes I have. I hate public speaking. I'd given a handful of talks in church before, but they were always an agonizing ordeal. The last time we were asked to speak in church (of course they asked dh if we'd both speak) I told him I wasn't going to. At first he couldn't believe I'd turn down a talk, esp since we were asked as a couple. I told him I was tired of being asked to do things I didn't
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There are many objections but the biggest one for me is that "men are to preside over the home". Even as a TBM I hated that. I'm an adult and I don't need anyone "presiding" over me. It's an equal partnership between us two parents in our family, and I'll not kowtow to someone else just because some church said I had to. It's a big reason why my husband's mother chose her
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I don't understand what their purpose or point in doing this is. TBMs will just say they're being persecuted by the worldly, proud, bitter apostates who are clearly in satan's clutches.
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I don't apologize at all. Bella was a sniveling boy crazed brat who cared for nothing but her boyfriend. No hobbies, no education, no interests. Just boys. Edward was controlling and wanted Bella to bend to his will. He didn't care about what she wanted, he cared about what he wanted. And let's not even talk about the bad writing in the books, or the awful acting and ridiculous makeup
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Thank jeebus no. When we first started dating, dh was inactive. He was only marginally active by the time we married. It didn't matter, I loved him and wanted to marry him. Being the good TBM, I still wanted to be married in the temple, but I figured that would work itself out eventually. We have 3 kids and that was plenty. In fact, my mother (a NOM) told me not to have anymore, that 3 wa
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I've seen it both ways. In our ward, we had a bishop that was loose with the food orders, then the next bishop was strict. He required that people come to church at least once a month (or something like that), and that the RS pres meet with them and go over their budget and determine how much they really needed. In my sister's ward they have people that have been getting food for years, n
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Same here, I wore them for 10 years. Makes wearing shorts and tanks so much sweeter, but I regret that I covered up my then lovely body in stupid capris and t shirts. The temple is what led to questioning in the first place. Everything about the temple, from the admittance process to the requirements, is what ultimately led me out. I guess in a small way I'm sort of glad I experienced it for
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Trust me, you feel like the stay puft marshmallow man in all those big puffy layers. The shoulder sash thingy has pleats in it, adding to the fluffy frumpy feeling.
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Do you guys heat up cold brew? I make cold brew in the summertime for iced coffee, but I've never had it hot.
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I didn't wear the jeebus jammies for a year or two before I left the church. I'm on the east coast and it's pretty common that a lot of members haven't gone to the temple yet or they don't wear G's for whatever reason. I'd never heard of members feeling you up to check for garments until I came here.
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At least 10 years of questions, then doubts, then a few years of irritation and anger about church but not understanding why at the time (cog dis), until one day I forced myself to confront all the questions and doubts and tried to understand why I disliked church so much. After a few tough weeks, I came to the sudden realization that it wasn't true at all, and my whole world came crashing down.
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One of my best friends is adopted. She found her birth mother and it did not go well. They actually did not have much in common, but that's beside the point. The birth mother was excited initially, but as soon as the novelty wore off, so did the interest. It quickly became a very one sided relationship, with my friend doing all of the contacting, calling, emailing. It dwindled down to no contact,
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There are three degrees of heaven, from lowest to highest: terestrial, telestial, and celestial (maybe I'm getting the T ones mixed up though). Anyway, the lowest one is the one anyone can get into, nobody wants to go there. 2nd one is pretty good, but not good enough. 3rd one, the celestial kingdom, has three degrees in it. The highest one is where god lives. If you're in the CK, you
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I knew nothing except that you "receive your endowments", whatever the hell that meant, and you wore garments after going to the temple. Nobody ever mentioned the secret handshakes and passwords, the ridiculous clown outfits that you fiddle with endlessly, the super creepy culty prayer circle, the poncho nakedness...nothing was mentioned except how wonderful and spiritual the temple was
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Wow, Mormons are crazy. Glad I'm not one ;)
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That's awesome! Our bishop is actually a pretty nice guy too. Will your DW read the essays? Those are at least on lds dot org.
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I wish I could sell ours. We had a tradition in the family that when you turned 8, you got a quad. That's 5 quads = $$$ down the drain.
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OMG yes, the stupid capris and roomy t shirts in the summer, because shorts were impossible to wear (unless they came down to your knees, which looked stupid and frumpy). I threw out all the capris when I left the church. I'll never own another pair. Real shorts and tshirts/tanks feel so awesome. I hated those damn garment the second I put them on, and never did get used to them. They're
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I started reading it but put it down because it was "anti". Cringing.
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OMG that makes me physically ill.
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It's too humiliating to talk about.
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Wow madalice, you have balls. I bow down to you. Towards the end I was incredibly frustrated with my calling, I hated it. I was also annoyed/angry at all the time dh's calling took away from the family (his was very demanding). I wish I could go back and take a stand. At the time I felt I had to support his service in the church (he was doing the lords work after all), and I had to do my duty too
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What happens is the poor shmuck already in the calling stays in the calling forever, or until they finally coerce someone else into fulfilling it. Sometimes that other person already has several callings but is the only person who will do it. Sometimes the person they call sucks at it and won't do the calling, so others are left to piece it together. And then sometimes the calling just goes unful
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I can tell you it does interfere with their schoolwork. Our oldest went to 3 years of early morning seminary (she had to wake up at 4:45, leave at 5:15), and she was exhausted and cranky the whole time, and her grades suffered. The last year of high school she didn't attend, and she got more sleep and was happier and she got great grades.
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I'm on the east coast and I heard about the more rigorous requirements from the seminary teacher right before we left. Yeah, tests, required reading, strict attendance requirements...it's all such a massive drag. I'm SO glad for the sake of my kids that we're done with all that shite. Oh, and a start time of 5:30 am. Fun. In my stake it is also highly highly discouraged to do home study semin
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That it's all made up.
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I thought all Mormons thought they were chosen and elect. I've heard many a time that "many are called, but few are chosen" and that we (Mormons) are an elect people (because they chose to believe the gospel). When I left the church, among the many varied emotions I felt was one of disappointment at no longer being special and chosen, haha! Just a fleeting emotion. You hear SO MUCH
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In complete agreement. I have much respect for John. I know TBMs who follow him on FB and listen to his podcasts. They are more open about the problems of Mormonism and are more tolerant of Exmormons and nevermos than other TBMs I know. I think he is opening minds, helping some out of the church, and helping some to be comfortable staying in. Whether you like him or not you have to acknowledg
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I agree with Matt. This guy could see that further contact might lead to ruining his marriage, so he decided to nip it in the bud and cut off contact. I happen to think this is a sensible thing to do in this case, instead of risking an otherwise happy marriage. As for throwing you away like a tissue? I disagree with that. You chatted on the phone with him a few times and met him once. He
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What she said. "Reading of the will" is only done in Hollywood. The executor of the will or lawyer is supposed to make copies and mail them to everybody involved.
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