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2 years ago
icanseethelight
get fucked. Many social Mormons will be driven from the church as the hammer comes down and the church regresses 100 years.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
While I am not a fan of lying, I would NOT just announce that you are done one day. I did it. My marriage survived but we have a divided household and my DW has a LOT of resentment because I let my kids make their own decisions. Stop, slow down, and let him take the journey with you. If you have addressed this previously I am sorry but I cannot emphasize enough the need to slowly make them aw
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
That is hilarious. Hinkley told the whole world TSCC wasn't true on national television multiple times. But no one was listening.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
nah, they can keep the priesthood and the direct connection to gawd. Just be more transparent about pay to play. Pay your tithing, say the right things, do the rituals, get to heaven .
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
LOL More evidence of the lack of giving a fuck by more and more adults to temple wackiness. TSCC knows its ONLY hope right now is to retain more youth and get them hooked. If TSCC wants to see serious growth in US again they need to do this: Two hour block Standardize and simplify repentance, with no public shaming Garments in temple only Temple recommends only questions are:
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
I the fact my DW now thinks she wants to be cremated a sign that she is freeing her mind from the double bind? That is a pretty bold decision for a TBM.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
Most truth is subjective. Especially historical truth. Our minds are incredibly adept at staying sane, even if it means it represses, misremembers, and creates memories out of thin air. Our ability to shape our own reality is why we are the apex predator of this lovely blue sphere. Everything you know is a lie, and only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
98. my .02
Since I do not know the dynamic of the relationship with your husband I cannot definitively say one way or the other whether to tell him. A big question is does "J" know about "K" now? But your initial reaction to the gift is all the answer you need. You were not subconsciously "looking", you were not attempting to create sexual tension. You should have no guilt w
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
BIC's for sure. 3rd and 4th gen even worse. TSCC is incredibly damaging to children. Adults can believe whatever wacky shit they want but to expect an 8 year old to express informed consent is wackadoo. In fact DW and I had this argument when my kids wanted to stop going to church. Her philosophy was they don't know what they want yet. I asked her why we asked them at 8 to get baptiz
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
"We miss you" falls into three catagories: 1: They are assigned to bring you back to the fold because you have been selected in a Presidency meeting to be a project 2: It is a counting month that determines next years budget 3: They actually miss you.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
Both of those studies were inconclusive despite the positive headline. In fact, family support was the greatest single impact. And in the 2014 study by the AFSP sponsored by The Williams Institute suicide rates actually INCREASE among transgender/transsexual who are "out". Finally 43% of all adolescents diagnosed with gender dysmorphia grow out of it (or grow into their biologica
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
LOL. People like me? Who am I exactly? Am I cis? bi? tri? gay? trans? A jewish boy who identifies as an asian girl but only is attracted to toasters? Can you tell with less than 200 words? But you are right. it was an unintentional hi-jack. The answer to the OP is there is no such thing as sin. Just like there should be no such thing as a "protected class". Back to t
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
Did anyone ever ask all the other letters if they wanted to be included? If you take identity groupthink to its ultimate and inevitable conclusion, you have a fascist society that controls you by how you identify. A business owner can refuse the right to serve anyone, for any reason(or at least they should be able to). I have turned many assholes away in businesses I have run, how long
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
LOL at this whole thread. Trump changed the nomenclature back from National Monument to National Park. Constitutionally, there is not a single line about stealing State Lands. The 1906 Antiquities Act was simply a way for Presidents to secure their legacy and steal more states rights. To claim more than 2 million acres as a "monument" is absurd. It always has been.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
Yep, Frisco and Prosper area. The neighborhood I used to live in went from 2% to 10 % mormon in 3 years...Had the ward split 3 times!
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
Good to see you are still around cl2. You know what a long ride it has been. I hope you are doing well.
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
Don't know why I am feeling prolific today. My DW and I have been married over 20 years. You can look up my old posts if you are interested in the history, I just want to explain the title. We live in the Dallas metro area where thousands of mormons are moving from further west. This has created a mormon "bubble" where it appears the church is still growing. Because my DW is still
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
FTR, I wasn't really trying to cause confusion about the acronym. Rather, I was hoping to cause self reflection into what drives us to make the thousands of decisions we make every day, and how much effort we put into presenting a face to the world that is acceptable to a standard that is completely arbitrary. The teaching of this behavior from a young age is why, proportionally, there ar
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
109. um...no
Because I do not know the dynamic of the relationship I can offer no sage advice. But my question would be why did she ask at all? Why not just tell you what she was doing and when?
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
...have not been on in years. What is happening?
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
I got it about 4 years ago, it took me 36 years to get my Masters in it. I suggest getting yours. I am not minimizing the incredible pain that TSCC has inflicted on all of us. It seems to be never ending, especially when people you love are still afflicted with belief. But kicking the habit of letting how other people think and feel about your behavior dictate how you are going to live you
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2 years ago
icanseethelight
gaslighting.
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
I am friends with the bishop in the ward my wife goes to. His take on the situation is that he is rearranging the chairs on the deck of the titanic. For some, the tribe is the thing.
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
Sorry, I thought I was done, but whose 'truth'? Everyone's truth is different, and subjective to their worldview and belief system. But you are right. No matter what you say, truth or lie, quietly or boldy, someone is going to get offended.
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
Nope, I don't judge anyone. I wasn't judging you or anyone else who has cared enough to engage with me. If you have figured out a way to use someone else's manipulation of your emotions to help you, good for you...
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
Since you posted that twice, genocide must really be a hot button issue for you. And who said I am not empathetic? I am glad you are motivated to fight against the things that cause you to react emotionally. But almost every war ever fought is an attempt at genocide, we just did not start calling it that until after Hilter purged European Jews. And genocide does not necessarily equal
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
LOL, I have enjoyed all the people reveling in their ability to be offended. From things truly horrific, to the mundane. For those offended by all of these various atrocities, what has that feeling done to alleviate the suffering of those that are directly affected? Has your anger and offense served any purpose other than to make you feel better about yourself? Saucie - where have you spoken?
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
blueorchid, let me be clear, not being offended is not the same thing as not acting when necessary. No one who knows me (as some on this board do) would say that I am anything other than a blunt instrument in many ways when it comes to action. I also would not characterize myself as someone who allows people or institutions to take advantage of me. My point is that allowing emotions (of
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
Random post As I consider to refine my belief system of one I have come up with a few core principles I live by. My favorite is that I have decided to never be offended. When you allow yourself to become offended you have lost. You have either: 1) Let the person attempting to offend you succeed 2) Lose a friend or relationship over a miscommunication By simply never being offended,
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4 years ago
icanseethelight
I am in the same boat. I hope my best friend and wife come with me someday.
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