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1 year ago
cludgie
You must know Mormon God the way I do.
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1 year ago
cludgie
Which is precisely why used car dealers and middle school maths teachers should no pretend to be religious leaders.
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1 year ago
cludgie
Holland really screwed the pooch when he was caught lying to the press in that cringe-worthy BBC article where Holland denied the Strengthening Church Members Committee.
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1 year ago
cludgie
It's not the fault of one's wife that one is gay.
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1 year ago
cludgie
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/01/19/commentary-im-collateral-damage/
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1 year ago
cludgie
Like how slow history was from about mid-1960s until the modern mobile phone era, where history moves ever more quickly, and changes our very world right before our eyes.
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1 year ago
cludgie
I see the church's recruitment program as selling a product. Going door to door selling brushes made by Fuller Brush used to be an actual job. People bought often bought from the Fuller Brush man when he came around. That doesn't happen now. First, going door to door became not just an annoyance, but also a security issue. Good brushes were available at many stores, so you could do without the gu
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1 year ago
cludgie
I wonder if they have looked at this through normal coloured lenses, and see that it could spectacularly backfire, as Mormon stuff like this tends to. As tourists are nudged off the pavement and shoved inside the Church Compound by starry-eyed young women in cult-like uniform ankle-length black skirts, they might not find it all that interesting. Ever since Temple Square was renovated some 50 yea
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1 year ago
cludgie
It does. Most Americans would not believe it if you told them that the freeway between Milan and Torino is lined with rice paddies. Everyone fixates on Tuscany, but Umbria is a duplicate of Tuscany, and all the way up and down the country it's full of affordable homes, hilltop villages, wine production, olive oil production, history, archaeological sites, and plain beauty. And while each region h
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1 year ago
cludgie
Say, this offers nothing toward the argument. But I live in SW Washington, and a while ago there was a big wreck in my front yard (sort of). Some guy ran off the road and ran headlong into a very old city-owned elm tree on the city-owned verge in front of my house, which destroyed his car. I hopped out of bed when I heard the crash, and immediately called 911 because it looked deadly. I was talki
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1 year ago
cludgie
She's a fine looking woman.
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1 year ago
cludgie
Think "Amana", a religious organization that no longer practices religion, only successful production and marketing of household appliances.
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1 year ago
cludgie
We are all noticing that the current Mormon church is not the one we grew up in.
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1 year ago
cludgie
Anyone remember the Izapa Stela 5? Or even what it even is? A stela/stele is a large flat stone with ancient relief carvings that tell a story, myth, or history. They're normally associated with ancient Egyptians, Syrians, etc. But the stela 5 was found in Chiapas, Mexico, and depicts what sane people believe is a creation event believed by natives. But Mormons fixated on the carved tree, and fil
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1 year ago
cludgie
It never was any kind of condition for salvation and "exaltation". But there have been several church leaders who framed it as such. I have mixed emotions about having served a mission. I could have retired two years earlier, I could have graduated earlier without going into the military, and I could have married the girl who I was so in love with. While the mission did me absolutel
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1 year ago
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Back when there were only 13 temples, they had cafeterias that were actually pretty good -- save for the Swiss temple that served things like gelatinous white fish that had the consistency of watery cream of wheat, topped with a mystery, putrid green sauce. It cost 5 francs, which was money ill spent.
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1 year ago
cludgie
Everyone ran short of respirators. And COVID hit Italy and some other countries very badly. As far as medicine goes, Italy has one of the greatest medical schools in the whole world.
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1 year ago
cludgie
My experience is that cops are cops, and they looooove to play guns. They haul out the so-called "long guns" whenever they can. I don't know if you remember, but the church once had local police monitoring the activity of people on the church's naughty list. It may not be as bad today as it was a couple of decades ago, but the church has a lot of cooperation with and control over the
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1 year ago
cludgie
I wonder what people thought. I wonder also if it caused the stake presidency to run around a bit.
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1 year ago
cludgie
We are now not to "body-shame", which is good. But obesity is very unfortunate, and people should see how bad it is. It shortens one's life upon the earth. It also physically harms, particularly the skeleton and its joints. It causes heart attack, cancer, and stroke, among many other maladies. I've had bishops who weighed 300+ pounds (for Brits, that's over 21 stone, if one is wont
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1 year ago
cludgie
As for missions being to help the missionary attain what passes as a "testimony", that idea is going rather tits-up, don't you think. First there is the normal stress and cost of a mission. But then, rather than make the mission a nice experience for the missionary, the church chose to double down with nitnoy demands and rules, shackling them to a ball and following up with a constant
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1 year ago
cludgie
Also a great choice. I like Italy because I've lived there for 6 years, and my son studied art at an Italian university. The country boasts excellent health care, and inexpensive living. Ditto Portugal, but their health care system is greater than Italy, so... Portugal now leads Europe in medicine.
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1 year ago
cludgie
Dammit, we still haven't met, innit?!
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1 year ago
cludgie
I'm sure that some older, rural,and back-woods Mormons still say "Chinaman" I mean, my own MIL used to say "darkies."
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1 year ago
cludgie
A wannabe educational institute.
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1 year ago
cludgie
I really resent him for how he once kept a Japanese crowd of members in a trance-like state of rapture as he spun lies right to their faces. (This was at a combined Japanese and US servicemen's conference around 1978(?) held in Okinawa.) Since I first heard the guy talk at a youth conference in the 1960's, I sensed something that made me doubt ALL his stories. I have no details of my own thoughts
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1 year ago
cludgie
The original "A Child's Christmas in Wales". Not the new version also so named, but having nothing to do with the epic prose of Dylan Thomas.
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1 year ago
cludgie
BYU is a joke, really. For one, it's got a law school named after a pro-Nazi anti-Semite, and a library named after a proud bigot who did not want Black people attending the "university". That says too much for me. Fair disclosure: I attended the place when men in jeans and women in trousers were against the honor code. How wearing things like that affects one's honor I'll never know
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1 year ago
cludgie
Well, we know that Mormons don't care about any history but their own, and don't care about the culture and traditions of anyone beyond Utah. So they're ignorant as all hell even going into this challenge. One LDS mission should tip us all off to their failures: The Mormons opened the Greece mission back in 1988. The creation of the mission highlights the lack of cultural knowledge and sensit
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