Thanks for your insights.
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knotheadusc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > He > says it pisses him off that her brand of therapy > is affiliated with the church, because her > practice doesn't align with the church's > teachings. > I was a therapist for LDS Family Services. And my brand of therapy didn't align with the church's teaching either. I normaliz
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Add the word donate with any other word. Time, money, etc. It's all compelled by guilt and other manipulations.
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Back in the 70s when satellite TV was newer, an older guy got up to talk about how bad they were, because they are beaming R-rated movies all around you, even if you don't watch them.
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Cultural anthropology claims that religion's function is to, explain the unexplainable. And every culture that I know of has a religion of some type. Even if it's a tribal culture that believes in the spirit of the forest or some such thing. Humans are wired to seek answers. And where there are no answers, religon steps in to make answers. It doesn't matter if it's complete BS, as long as
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I haven't been to a church since 2008. Back then, before smart phones, Palm Pilots were the gadget of choice in church. With guys pretending to read scriptures or have the hymnbook on it. If a phone did ring, everyone turned to glare at the offender. So I've never been to church with smartphones. What are most people doing with regard to phones during meetings nowadays? As addicted to phon
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If so, sounds like things will be getting a lot crazier now. They used to keep a pretty tight lid on public claims that goes against teachings. But maybe the level of crazy will be getting even worse.
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I'm listening to Zulema Pastenes' court testimony. And it seems bat shit crazy. But apparently kind of mainstream enough to openly have conferences all over the West. How were these people not ex'd for apostasy, or other such craziness? I last went to church in 2008. But it seems that people coming around claiming to have had many past lives in the past couple of thousand years, and givin
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My shelf started to break when Native Americans didn't have any Hebrew blood. It further broke during an anthropology of Mormonism class and finding things like, the Mormon Doctrine book had over a thousand doctrinal errors in it. And he was told not to republish it. And he said, F.U. I'm doing it anyway. OK, maybe not the swear part. But that didn't fit the rosy, Jesus comes and tells us
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Dave the Atheist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe it's actually YOU that has changed. I really do think that this place has changed. But I certainly have too. Back then, this place was somewhat of a lifeline. Knowing there are other people going through the same shock as me, or have already gotten over it, was a very helpful thing for me. Now
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vahn421 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Great post. I actually came here in 2019 and > posted the same thing, compared to my experience > leaving in 2008. > > Be proud. The trails we blazed 10-20 years ago > made this so. We did the hard work so others don't > have to. > > Still... I miss the super sharp, brilliant > ex-M
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When I was a believer, and Hinkley said his, "I don't know that we teach that" I knew it was a lie. I even said something about we do too teach that, to family I was with. But somehow it bounced right off not long after. And didn't shake my faith. Now I think that I was bonkers for not letting it crash my shelf down. But I can easily see others letting this knew lying, cheating,
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I didn't live in Utah when I was leaving, and had never told neighbors that I was a Mormon. Then moved out of the country, where I'd never run into any. I told my wife when we got married that I had been one, but that she couldn't tell anyone. I don't want people thinking that I'm a gullible idiot. I wouldn't have such strong feelings if I didn't hear co-workers etc. talking about Mormons in
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When I was a therapist at LDS Family Services, I'd tell clients that I provide clinical help for their mental well-being, but they'll have to get spiritual help from a leader. Then I'd normalize masturbation. I'd tell them that a professor worded it like, "There are two kinds of people, those who admit that they masturbate, and those who lie." I figured that the bishop would win. Bu
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I sold a 1969 convertible Camaro to Jay Chesseman. A late 70's or early 80's BYU star. He had been hounding me for years to sell it to him, and I finally did. But he didn't pay for it all. He paid me the bulk of it up front, but I gave him 30 days to pay the rest off, but he said he'd have it paid a lot earlier. I had surgery and needed money bad, so called him up for payment. He kept say
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My atheist wife, who I've been with for nine years, doesn't understand at all about me trying to keep my bad marriage going. I've tried to help her understand all the programing about being married for ever that was drilled into my head since a young child. But from her perspective, it was just stupid to stay so long. That's probably something only another exmo would understand. But I'm v
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Yes I do like to watch naked people do the nasty dance sometimes. But without me searching for it, Mormon porn has become popular enough to pop up in popular places without searching for it. I haven't had the inclination to see it. But the screenshots used to lure you into clicking looks like Mission Presidents getting it on with young Elders. Wearing authentic garments. Hottie women
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He was one of my heroes. For being the best at his position, yet being humble about it. I felt that warmth for him all the way up until Trump came on the scene. Then he went crazy. Smart people becoming willfully stupid so fast amazes me.
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Not unless it is a group of them, and every one of them is wearing a white shirt. Hint, only happens with Mormons.
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I'm a very logical person. And far from intuitive. I never had a personal revaluation. I always knew that it was my own mind making up whatever felt most fitting. I pretty much thought everyone else was making it up too. So fast and testimony meetings always had me saying bs all the way through. I was suckered into thinking the big guys up in Salt Lake were getting the real deal, even tho
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I worked for LDS Family Services in the mid 2,000's. It coincided with my becoming aware, and leaving the church. Leaving started with reading No Man Knows My History. Then at work, a new rule was implemented from Salt Lake saying that said that women had to wear a skirt and nylons. I told my boss that I thought it was sexist. Being a bit naive to how things work as an employee for the cu
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The name dropping you mentioned, plus me being a fully licensed counselor, and him claiming to be a counselor while not really ever being one, turned me off to him. But reading everyone else's experience with him on this thread makes me think that I must have missed something valuable.
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The first thing that shook me, and hence my name here, was when it was found that American Indians didn't have the DNA expected from who the mormon church told me they were all my life. I remember from my childhood BYU having, "The Lamanite Generation" and "Lamanite week." So it was a shock that people Native of the Americas had nothing in common with Laman from the Mormon
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I've been out of the country for ten years. So when I last lived there, I was a lot closer to when I stopped being mormon. When I last lived in Denver, if a home came up for sale in Littleton within view of the temple there, I would have bought it probably without thinking about it. But I was searching Zillow for houses, and there was one near the temple. I thought, yuck, I don't want to
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My mom was sure that Jesus was good looking. Her reason being that he was half a perfect being. I'm thinking that my mom would say God has a really nice big dick.
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I haven't lived in SLC since 2005. I had no idea that Antelope island wasn't an island anymore. Salt Lake is screwed.
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I keep my former membership a secret. After moving away from the Intermountain West, where nobody ever thinks that Mormons are nearby, I've heard exactly what they think of Mormons. Pretty much admitting you were Mormon from my observing would have everyone present thinking that you are so naive and stupid. If they knew that you were one, they'd keep it pretty nice. But when they are sure tha
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"The church and its dogma so saturate one's life that you are left without much that isn't church related to talk about." We left the same year. And one year later, I went to stay for a couple of days with my favorite uncle and his wife. I was shocked how little they had to say. They didn't know that I wasn't mormon. And every conversation was about callings etc. My previous favori
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It seems to me that if you are very conservative, you would tend to not question authority and go against the grain as much while in a very conservative organization. If you were liberal, you could more easily let your brain go to the questioning side that you were warned away from doing. Therefore, it seems natural to me that the more liberal members would become the Exmo's generally.
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I find forcing a woman to bear a child against her will, then refusing to help provide the help she might need to raise it repulsive. And of the two, I find abortion to be the much less repulsive one.
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