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29 days ago
left4good
And they found gobs of artifacts: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/world/bronze-age-warrior-germany-scn/index.html I wonder why the same can't be done at Cumorrah...
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5 weeks ago
left4good
So again ChurchCo announced new temples, eight this time. And weepy-eyed members are blathering about what a sure sign this is that the church is true in these the latter days. I have for a long time thought that in an era of stagnant growth, new temples are announced and built to stimulate revenue, but that is entirely speculative. Does anyone have any real insight into what goes on in th
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7 weeks ago
left4good
Call them back. Tell them you have changed your mind. You owe them no other explanation.
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2 years ago
left4good
$35 million: - Immunize 777,777 children, or - Drill 4,375 clean water wells in Africa, or - Build 290 schools in Africa, or - Build 700 small clinics in Africa But I'm sure it's a very nice book.
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2 years ago
left4good
In the age of internet everything, why have ANY General Conference sessions at all?
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2 years ago
left4good
The offense taken at the cross is false and another example of the Mormon superiority complex. They act offended to show they're better than those poor Catholic losers who worship idols because THEY have the Truth. How is a guy trumpeting his horn any less of an idol than a cross? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Veterans_Affairs_emblems_for_headstones_and_marker
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2 years ago
left4good
I have long thought that the LDS church is led by a bunch of unqualified pretenders who in the process of pretending to be "inspired" can do grave harm. I do not know the right way to deal with a murderer of even one person much less a serial murderer. But I'm guessing the church leader who passed on this advice is no more qualified than I am: "He says a church leader told
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2 years ago
left4good
I would think like most bureaucracies, ChurchCo has a pretty well developed succession plan in place. I'm betting there's a short list that is kept updated by the First Presidency. When someone catches their eye, he's added. When someone screws up, they're dropped. And my guess is we will see a non-Caucasian male this go around. The Lord is feeling the need to press even more vigorousl
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2 years ago
left4good
Monson's signature sure is crisp. He must be feeling better.
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2 years ago
left4good
Paragraph 3: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/lds-leaders-attacked-in-africa/article_fd2193f6-9850-53e1-af13-12cc9998c9f6.html
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2 years ago
left4good
I love our cats. I love our dogs. I refuse to pick a favorite from among them.
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2 years ago
left4good
From D. Michael Quinn's "The Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power," in quoting an email from Alan Blodgett of the Church Financial Department: "Why then doesn't the Church tell its financial story? I can only guess that Church leaders fear that individual members may not understand the vastness of Church resources and operations, and having this information might negat
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2 years ago
left4good
No doubt: Hard unsalted from a tub. On a hot baguette.
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2 years ago
left4good
"Room 104" is a new series on HBO that is much like the "Twilight Zone" series I remember from the early 60s. If you get a chance, you might want to watch this episode: https://www.advocate.com/television/2017/9/08/tonights-room-104-takes-mormon-missionaries-and-sexual-repression It wasn't meant to be funny, but for this Exmo and my significant other, we found it hila
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2 years ago
left4good
Meh. I generally give great reviews of books I read, but this one wasn't to me that great. Maybe I was looking for more than there was there. It is chock full of historical data, property records, how much 19th century LDS leaders accrued in wealth, and so on. So if you're into that you will likely enjoy it. What I was looking for was contemporary insight, hopefully juicy insight. Dis
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2 years ago
left4good
The proclamation will remain divine until it isn't. And then its authors will be thrown under the bus with "We don't know why those men said those things, but they were a product of their time."
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2 years ago
left4good
Why do people who talk to god always have their conversations with him/her/it alone? Wouldn't it be better for god to appear to all of us all at once to clear up any confusion?
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2 years ago
left4good
And I agree: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/10/03/this-mormon-wrote-the-worst-response-so-far-to-the-las-vegas-shooting/ To save you the trouble: "If the victims in the Las Vegas incident were observing the Sabbath day, they would have been safe."
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2 years ago
left4good
Here's where it left me and my significant other: Be nice to other people. That's all I need.
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2 years ago
left4good
"The best days are ahead for the kingdom of God on the earth," said President Henry B. Eyring, first counselor in the First Presidency. "Opposition will strengthen our faith in Jesus Christ, as it has since the days of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Faith always defeats fear. Standing together produces unity." I can't help but think that's whistling in the dark as he sees what m
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2 years ago
left4good
He is the poster child for trying (but failing) to sound profound by inventing phrases. I might be wrong, but wasn't "tender mercies" his as well?
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2 years ago
left4good
Nelson wants to know what our lives would be like without the Book of Mormon. My answer: It would have been far more genuine for many years. https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690015/President-Russell-M-Nelson-The-Book-of-Mormon-What-Would-Your-Life-be-Like-Without-it.html
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2 years ago
left4good
How interesting: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865690032/Priesthood-is-a-rocket-that-delivers-payload-of-Christs-atonement-LDS-leader-says-Saturday-night.html https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RIAN_archive_852682_XXVII_Congress_of_the_CPSU.jpg
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2 years ago
left4good
Andrew R. Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 'But I can't ignore the "Mormon" in "Mormon > Tabernacle Choir,"' > > That just seems a bit extreme to me. > > I am an active LDS member, however, if there was a > choir of married gay men - called "The Same-Sex > Married Choir" - and they were good I would
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2 years ago
left4good
Looks like the Sept 23 date already made the list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
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2 years ago
left4good
I think it's hard to say. I sometimes worry about exactly your concern (especially when I see things like what went on in the special Senate election last night in Alabama--they are both scary ideologues.) But then I think there are thankfully enough enlightened people who will tug things back in the other direction in 2018. We will see, I suppose.
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2 years ago
left4good
It's not unlike "losing ones testimony." No one "loses" anything. They GAIN enlightenment. But to say someone may lose something if they're not careful keeps people in line.
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2 years ago
left4good
Their music is okay. But I can't ignore the "Mormon" in "Mormon Tabernacle Choir," so I can't stand listening to them. More--and maybe it's just me--since I left Mormonism, they come across as typically Mormon arrogant and smug, communicating that THEY have some unique hold on truth. I know they don't, so the smugness is even more abrasive.
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2 years ago
left4good
Especially one who was recently Speaker of the House. How handy that will be. http://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2017/09/22/former-utah-house-speaker-named-chief-lobbyist-for-mormon-church/
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2 years ago
left4good
My dear wife of 46 years and I have been mellow since we started dating at 15. We love and respect each other but are very low on formality. We like it that way. Deep into our Mo'ism years I remember an arrogant stake leader berating me for not opening and holding the car door for my wife as we were leaving a stake meeting. On reflection I so wish I'd spoken up and said something along the
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