Recovery Board  : RfM
Recovery from Mormonism (RfM) discussion forum. 

Results 1 - 30 of 182
7 years ago
demoneca
Seriously. All these things raised red flags in my mind as well. Funny thing is, I'm not allowed in the "holy" part of the temple, but as an outsider, I'm allowed in the part with the cash register LOL. It seemed hypocritical, and then the red flags rose. I thought immediately of Jesus kicking out the people who were spending money in his temple. Money is much too earthly to belong in a
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
When I was driving, I saw a pair of missionaries walking around my town. They looked bored. I liked the one who tucked his BoM into the back of his pants. It's like the BoM is some burden to carry, even for a TBM...lol.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Ok, thank you for clearing that up! I agree, he is an idiot!
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
You called me an idiot. That's not me being sensitive, that's you being rude. You assumed my post was to be faith promoting. It wasn't. You act like I'm advocating for the church, when I was clearly making a joke at its expense. I'm not sure what your problem is.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Excuse me? I don't know why you're being so rude. Obviously you didn't understand my post. I'm not going to spell it out for you. You'll have to figure it out yourself.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Out of context, this advice works well for me :). I tend to doubt myself too much. In context...we all know it's a scheme lol.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
While it's not my business to judge, I personally find this marriage appalling... He's 61 and she's 19...I thought 20 years was a large yet manageable age gap, and here they are 41 years apart. With a baby on the way. They're like 2 generations away from each other. He could be her grandfather. When she's 40, he'll be 80. The fact that he has two wives doesn't even compare to the creepy, excessiv
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
You probably don't get acknowledged because as an outsider now, the fact that you are still a good person feels threatening to them. It's pathetic. They have a sh**ty attitude and don't act on the message of "love thy neighbor as thyself," the doctrine they always brag about being great examples of.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Interesting. I didn't know the church did this. I guess it's no surprise, since they practically own Utah government. I wanna know the secrets stashed in the vault!
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Compared to 5 years ago? 15? I'm asking specifically about non-members who have minimal knowledge of the church through school peers, work peers, cousins (any distant relatives), politicians, or similar relationships. Has knowledge of the church increased over this time span due to technology? I'm curious how the big events that happen in the church, like the essays, court cases, and even BYU
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I have to wonder what Mormons think when those in other sects of Christianity claim to be moved by the spirit. The common replies are that "it's not the same" and that "God uses these feelings to push them towards the church." This response infers superiority in the LDS church baptism spirit and the spirit the other person claims to feel. But I wonder how honest these response
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one struggling with this problem. I wish no one had to have this problem though. I may not have Mormon family members, but my neighbors see me the same way your family members see you. It's arrogant and even disheartening. Most of all, they are wrong and can't see it. It's so wrong that they look down on others like this.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I always thought this line of thinking was disgusting too. It came as a surprise to me when I first started going to church that there were implications that God loves certain people more than others. It didn't strike me as the source that a divine form of love would come from.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I'd send a card, or, if invited, one of the cheaper gifts listed on the registry. You don't need to break the bank for someone you hardly know. Besides, it's the thought that you are wishing them well on their wedding that truly matters. Anyone should be thankful for warm wishes towards their wedding.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I'd cut down on the communication. Don't reply to her emails. She cannot force answers out of you. If she's needy, she knows she can't push so hard, or she will push you away. I'd gently but firmly let her know that while you still care for her, your relationship with her has changed. You have every right to get on with your life, without her constantly burdening you with her immense problems. Sh
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
A guy in one of my Sunday school classes would often go to the fast food restaurant across from church during the lesson. He was a rule breaker, a bit of a bully, and probably jackmo or non-believer at heart. Same with a girl in my class who wore shorter skirts with leggings. They both got away with that stuff and people loved them, regardless. I thought it was stupid. Members got leeway if they
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I agree. This desribes my BIL very well. My BS meter definitely went off when I noticed he made a habit of it. "Should" is the type of word to be used with caution.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
This is an interesting tip that I haven't seen before. Can you tell me more? I'm guessing charming people tend to give off vibes of being too good to be true. The second point is interesting as well. What does excessive praise look like in another person? Compared to someone who likes giving compliments to everyone they know, will this type of person be selective in who they praise in order to is
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Yeah, I agree, those are awful. I recall the Jesus is Love remark from a Christian who viewed Jesus as a nice hippie. Basically, Jesus is love, so much that dangerous (sinful?) behavior, like bullying someone who is kind to you, is acceptable. This happened to someone I knew. On movie/game nights the host would use his own money to buy pizza for the group. Very kind. One of the group members comp
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I can't stand manipulative people, Mormon or not. The Mormons who are manipulative have the added annoyance of hypocrisy by claiming to come from the truest religion on earth, while simultaneously looking down on others outside their religion. This can be applied to other religions and groups that emphasize the claim to exclusive truth too. So when does your bs meter go off? How soon do you pi
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
It's an honest question, but it won't get a straight answer since Mormons tend to evade them. I have a similar question. What does it say about the Mormon god to command Joseph Smith to steal other men's wives and to "marry" teenage girls much younger than himself? This isn't what comes to mind when people say God works in mysterious ways. There's nothing mysterious about destroying est
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
This is exactly what I asked the online missionaries about. I asked them, "If personal revelation through prayer does not match what the prophet says, is it wrong?" They said yes. I was actually surprised and happy to get a straight answer though. Basically, you have to keep praying not until you get an answer, but until you get the "right" answer. Hmmmmm...
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I think you're being reasonable. Safety should always be taken seriously, even if he's upset at how "unfair" you're being. No fun hobby is worth his life. Are there any other cool hobbies your son could have, if his goal is to impress and have fun with his friends? There's sky diving, rock climbing, mountain biking, dirt biking, white water rafting, etc. Not sure if any of those are on
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
I wish I could have mind reading as a superpower. I'd love to know which missionaries don't have their hearts in serving a mission or the church in general. I'd love to help them feel normal and safe about what they are experiencing. I feel bad for anyone who is forced to devote two years of their life to something that makes them unhappy. Unfortunately, as was your case, no one will get to know
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
My guess as to why they'd mess with this poor student's private parts is because they made their offense about humiliating the victim. Taking it a step further, the intestines are very sensitive, so now there is a chance of doing (potentially severe) physical damage too. If they really hated this guy, they knew a way to maximize his pain physically, psychologically, and through turning a sexual a
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
Here is a list of all the nice things you are doing :) 1. Remaining true to yourself 2. Respecting your husband (and his faith) 3. Continuing to love and appreciate your husband 4. Doing your best I think it's wonderful that you appreciate your husband's sincere intentions with his prayers and that they can be special to both of you in your marriage. You may not believe, but I wouldn't put
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
It's funny how common this was as prayer. Evidently no one knew how to deviate or they didn't care that much and wanted to get on with eating (can't blame them). And Mormons say their prayers aren't canned like the Lord's Prayer lol.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
It sounds like you met your wife half way+ (out of love too!), yet she chose to stomp on your gift. How cruel. I'm sorry your wife doesn't know how good she has it. She did a very cold-hearted thing. Not Christlike at all. Whatever struggles she is having, she doesn't need to hurt the husband who shows her love.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
You are correct. They only want people who have the intent to join. They don't want casual observers who attend for their own spiritual purposes, at their own pace, and at their own discretion. They really don't like to see agency used in its purest form.
Forum: Recovery Board
7 years ago
demoneca
It's so sad when Mormons dismiss the bishop's actions as innocent, when stuff like this goes down. I think they are in denial or choose to be naiive in order to look good to other Mormons. Because good Mormons don't think evil thoughts of other Mormons, especially a man who is the bishop, right? Ick... This goes back to the faulty logic thread someone just posted here. Choosing to overlook warnin
Forum: Recovery Board