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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Ain't that the truth, altava. Whatever would the older age group leaders find to talk about if they couldn't talk about staying far away from your of little factory and guarding your cupcake(s) with your very life? In my day and age (eons ago) I had to sew on every single one of my earned reward do-hickies on that ugly purple felt bandelo; oh, and did I mention that I had to walk to church t
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Promising to give everything I owned or ever will own to the silly church. The first time I went and those words were said I thought, what, what, what? but then I went ahead and made the promise anyway. I wish I had just got up and left---clown outfit and all. Now I consider it laughable, mainly because my life is not filled with much material wealth (by the church's standards they would
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Mormons=respecter of personal boundaries is one big OXIMORON To me a lot of the mormons your dealing with have most likely never lived in a community or home where they have seen respecting personal boundaries modeled. But that does not mean you shouldn't point out to them what your needs are and that they are off-base. Suggest they google boundaries on the internet to learn proper decent be
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Mine was oh, so silent, but when she said something you knew that she had been watching you, listening-in to your conversations, or going through your things--letters, diaries,etc. No place was mine alone in the house. She had been active in the church in the years before I was born, then separated from my very alcoholic sperm-donating type of father because she was told to do so by her bro
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I so agree that the bishop was an asshat plus. Insisting the guy come up to the front of the whole congregation!!! That must have been another Long Green Mile walk. I am against capital punishment, but in favor of the bishop being tied to the podium while tomatoes and such were belted at him. Afterward, he gets to clean it up all by himself. Embarrass him some way or another. Interesti
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Didn't remember to say what I thought of the video. CREE[U with sick sexual overtones rings loud and clear. I have never been to a chiropractor. That being the case I would have expected the doc to be much more professional---I will be doing this and this---adjusting your neck, adjusting your back, etc. and not going on and on with this "come-on" conversation with this attractive te
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Hummmm....Elder Berry, maybe we should be worried that you keep thinking of teen age girls?????? I'll bet if we got a hold of your geneology we would find that you are dodging being related to a certain Profit (or two or three).
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Interesting comment the bishop made; that he found most people prefer to have the topic assigned. Makes me wonder back when I was in the silly morg if most people asked what they should talk about. Wouldn't surprise me in the leassst because, as mentioned, speaker would have less thinking to do. Possibly for another reason---supervigilent about doing the "right" thing. I never gav
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Yes, I am an old fartess (feminine fart), and I remember when it was possible to decide for yourself what lovely words of wisdom you would impart in sac meeting. Then the cult started assigning topics--- and then I heard of articles in the ensign being assigned for speaker to enlighten members' minds about. At the time I said to a friend that that it would only be a matter of time until the
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
There is no Santa?? Boo hoo. You've ruined my day. 100% with the belief that babtism should not occur until you are considered an adult and even better, after that. I strongly feel the same about sending brain-dead missionary teens out to spread any religion. Yep, they have surely had enough life experiences and studied enough to discuss religion intelligently. Right. I screamed my
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Curious if the former mish companion asked you why you left or just invited you back. Neat (now that word just popped out and takes me back to my high school days) that you took the time to share your feelings about leaving the church whether he asked you or not. Enjoyed your concise and well-written words----
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Releve, see your point. Food and a roof over your head can be needed, and pregnant she would have been. I'll bet she was just hoping, if she had taken that peek, that joe's shananigan might work---Geez-Louise, it had to work so they could move out of poverty. The point about her Daddy rings true also.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
What inhumane treatment for anyone to be put through. So proud of you for being there for her. Cudos to you. I vote in favor of people arriving to sac meeting in lovely cultural regalia, What a beautiful sight to imagine. I was also appalled that this Stasi-bishop is PRE-SCREENING talks and lessons. I have wondered now and then if anyone knew of this happening or had experienced it. I
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The In and Out Mormons. Hummm, I better attend church this week. I missed the last couple of weeks due to whatever, but now am running low on grub. And Quick hide the beer! Bishop Phillips is at the door. I need him to give me a good recommendation for that construction job. And then there are those who dodge talking to you at the grocery store, but show up at RS, which they do onl
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Interesting to hear the expectations and wordage back then---setting good examples to their neighbors and possess true integrity towards their friends. I think these two would be an nice replacement for some of the temple inquiries asked now. In fact, maybe these two are the only questions that even need to be asked.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
What in the hells-bells does semi-luddites even mean, or should I be afraid to ask? And I love poster's observations of brain-dead 18-year-olds---pretty funny. Makes me think of the humor and great lines in the Book of Mormon Broadway musical and some of my grandkids. I'm being sent to Arkansas. Uh, where is A..A.. Arkansas?
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Exciting to hear that another brave soul is rockin' the cult's boat. Way to go!
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Wishes for a happy marriage. Keep us posted on any MORoN stories you care to pass along.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Plus, I find it highly unlikely that Emma would have not taken a peek at those plates laying around the house and it would have slipped out from her mouth how shiny and wonderful they were and someone would have heard her words.....this would have been me if I had been walking in her shoes. Could anyone keep this secret if that occurred? Or maybe she was so afraid or in awe of joe, her low
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Sleezy Joe won a place on that list. He deserves to be there. He earned it not fair and square. Fun read. Thanks!
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
In a college geology course. looking at the evidence in my own back yard (aka those majestic slanted and twisted Wasatch Mountains, plus holding fossilized rocks in my hand, how could the lds church not uphold evolution? I needed them to be shouting the news out loud and clear about how amazing and awesome this showed God to be.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Someday you'll understand they were needed on the other side Someday you'll realize why you had to endure this Someday you'll be able to see him again Someday, someday, someday...... I used to take the "somedays" to heart thinking they MUST help; they are PROMISED to help; they are REVEALED to help. Now I see these somedays as mostly well-meaning religious people trying to f
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
So true and can't agree more with the sentiment that for the church it is all about appearances... conning people into believing an image that is not true. They have a multitude of subtle tricks tucked up their sleeve and pull one out that fits the occasion. Their PR Department is an example of double-talk at its best. The lds cult follows joe's con game to the letter; they had a master te
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Flying Spaghetti Monster for help. Thank you to her/him for the assisting revelation. I do not temple I do not dunk Find Joe's gold bible Easy to debunk I do not tithe Nor do I fast The celestial kingdom? A load of trash (received kind-rhyme-line-help here from poster) Ward toilets and sinks I will not touch Leave them to Monson To scrub and such (yeah sure, as if this would
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Loved all of the evidence presented that supports the premise that the lds cult, from its conception, was a power-monger and into politics with both hands and feet. I will never forget their arrogant role in damming the passing of the Egual Rights Amendment because I saw it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears in downtown Salt Lake. And then there was California's Prop 8. How do
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Because I came from a background of completely opposite parenting and actually graved some rules from my only parent as evidence that she knew I lived in her house, I have the following suggestion. Voice to your father that you care about your younger sister's welfare and believe he does too because he cared enough to set some rules and guidance for his daughter to live by. Follow this with
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Thoreau was a unique, intelligent and interesting individual who gave mankind many words of wisdom to think about. He marched to the beats of his own drum just as his words describe. Enjoyed reading the quote from him. Mark Twain is another person who left us many common-sense gems of wisdom as well to as humorous, colorful and fun descriptions of humankind. His description of the BofM is my
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The fundie attitude about skipping this life and moving on to paradise as they see it scares me big time. These groups are many cards short of a full deck and I worry and don't trust them and also do not want to ever be subject to their view and control. So yes, quite recently I have begun to feel more of the need to share my view of atheism resulting from this impending fear of what could hap
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Initially I attended and clung to the church because my friends were there and for the activities... plus the church's outlook on the family seemed beautiful. Life at home was a disaster, and being young, naive, and needy, I found in the church community and praise and attention. I was a pretty serious wreck emotionally. Then I started college, started to read, made a stab at a long road to h
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
The one word summing up the lds experience for me is bor-ring, with a capital B that rhymes with T and.... la,tee,da (however the song continues), And those teaching/talking in the lds cult who are trying to keep anyone's attention, whether they are teaching nose-dripping-squirmy-2-year-olds or teens squirmy to catch a peek of something-or-other and who bolt out the door as quick as possible,
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