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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I also know what it is to feel dirty and traumatised by an attack. My experience played out where I was not believed one tiny bit that something like what I described had occurred. This happened in my middle school years and ended any trust I with my mother, it was the final straw in a rocky relationship. I also relate my sorrow to those who have had to suffer any kind off sexual abuse, an
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I agree that tracting provides exercise and fresh air and scenery benefits, but as a mom who had children mishes in the past (3 to be exact), I was worried sick about their safety as they went door to door. Two of them served in revolting places (Haiti and South Africa in apartaid days) and the other in safer, thank the Lard, Canada. But I got grayer with all three. Now I have a granddaughter
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I think most men would reply---Hey, who cares if their single? Just a female guess.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
In my mind I know that the words you are saying are correct----that fertile ground and desire are needed to have workable conversations, but when it comes to my TBM children I often lack patience and worry that it will never happen in my lifetime. Also, there are certain parts of MOmRON belief that gets me to the boiling point. I have learned to walk away, punch my pillow, and all that, but
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I so agree with the one word assessment of BOR-RING. And to personalize this word to describe my view more completely, I would add the words, bor-ring to the get-go, but feeling oh, so much guilt because I saw the cult like this. What was I going to do and where would I go from here?
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Checker of minor facts, thanks for your second verse suggestion---it reads truer (is that even a word?) I also made some other changes in my little poem which, I think, improved it. (yes, I can be obsessive.) Noticed that we both have the word facts in our screen name---right on. FACTS RULE. And, Leaving, your poetry was fun to read----thanks for posting. Made me feelsad for you that th
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Following an earlier thread, I have a little different take on treatment of small children in the lds cult; I would call the treatment emotionally abusive. I realize that this is a bold statement, but it is my opinion, and I'm a stickin' to it and STICKIN' IT TO THE CULT. My first major in college for 3 l/2 years was elementary education followed by becoming a mom to eight children (yes I sai
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I do not temple I do no dunk Beyond a doubt It's Joseph Smith Junk I do not tithe Nor do I fast The Celestial Kingdom? Way beyond my grasp Ward sinks and toilets I do not touch Leaving them to Monson To scrub and such I do not miss The Sunday Scene Always so boring Leaving one green It felt so-o good Made me feel much better Putting a stamp On that Resignation Letter
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
No limit on the ex's is my humble opinion because the 10% will always be in demand first and foremost. Return as often as you like, please. I just can't imagine the 15 without expensive vehicles and second homes. They like the nice things of life, all of the little perks----nice food, nice clothes, and, probably, nice maid service.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Sort of the same thing happened to me at Christmas time. Wanted to hear my daughter sing with her ward choir, which is amazingly decent to listen to, and I was unprepared with the proper? attire. So I attended anyway wearing black pants which were casual, not dressy in the least. And much to my daughter's credit, she didn't give a darn and was just happy I attended. I am pretty proud of her
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Just realized you said he was a family member, not a brother-in-law. I was trying to be psychic I guess.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Brother of Jerry I found out from your words that I am both a brick (glad that I am not a pr***) and that I am a blazer of trails (and I wasn't even a cub scout). Seriously, loved the analogy of the brick wall. Is that your's and can I quote you? (your chance for fame!) THANKS.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
It's A-OKAY for your brother-in-law to get religious in his reply, but off-limits for you??? Yep, sounds about right, because, after all, he is a TBM while you are not, so in his crazy world he has the authority to call the shots. Glad you called him on his arrogance.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Been out of the church 8 years and I can say that time, plus counseling, lots of reading, and working hard to change has made it possible to mostly crawl out from under the lds cult security blanket. But sometimes, especially when I'm emotionally or physically vulnerable, I still long for some of the religious fairy tale to be as true as I thought it was. I want to feel taken care of and bel
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I naively sent a letter snail-mail to those people who I felt I wanted to share my feelings and reasons for resigning from the lds church. I just wanted them to know more about me, understand me and know was happening in my life. Trying very hard to be honest, I attempted not to preach and to be respectful of their beliefs. I felt I did a reasonably good job in accomplishing this. To say tha
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Infidel by Ayaan Hirshi Ali.---she details the story of her life and how she left the religion of Islam. New York Times wrote: "Too potent a social critic to be tolerated any longer (in her home country)....an unflinching advocate of women's rights and an unflinching critic of Islamic extremism."
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Appreciate the reminder of why societies like the Masons and Knights Templar had to resort to having member penalties in order to maintain their secrecy. And I think that your chosen words describing ole conniving Joe are right on----he really was a dumb ass. How in the world did he expect to keep it a secret that he tried to sell his proclaimed words sent directly from the Lard (the BofM) wh
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I so agree that it is dishonest and despicable (my adjective) that the cult does not reveal to those who are planning to go through the temple what the ceremony entails and what they will be required to promise. Of course, we all know why the cult chooses not to operate this way. I hope to be able to pull off a vow I have made to ask those I know who are going to the cult temple for the first
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
We are watching YOU.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Cudo's to your comment, "you should have stayed in bed," which made me laugh and, most regretably, inspire(?) this little ditty----- Elder F, what the f*** You should have stayed in bed Because that f***ing song you wrote Won't leave my aching head.
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Lost message on first attempt, so I'll try again. A Mother's Songs and Songs from Missions------ My late husband sang a sweet song on his mission years ago in New Zealand. He was assigned to play tennis to spread the Good (not to sure what is good about it) News. This is what he did this whole mission! And,if my recollection is right, he also was allowed to swim on his P-day----pretty ro
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
n/t
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
"Back when,"the only thing that grabbed my attention in boring meetings was a speaker that provided some laughs using great stories and maybe a joke or two. So throw in a good temple joke, which shouldn't be hard to come by as the temple going experience is all one big joke from the crazy hand signals, the game of musical chairs and rooms, to needing to pack plenty of drowsy preven
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I too have times when I am so angry at the cult that I see nothing but red. The trigger for me is some of my kids and grandkids that are TBM---seeing how they are taught by the MORmON church to follow, follow, follow and that to use their own critical thinking is not the "correct" thing to do. I feel quilty for the years I was in the church with my kids and allowed the church to pla
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
These threads are right on the $money$---literally. Plus the quote,"They were primping their flock of sheep so they can continue to shear their wool off every year" is right on the $money$ too, and has a very nice ring to it and is easy to remember. The quote summarizes very well the "true" first article of faith of the MORmON church, which is, "I believe with all o
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
I admit there are a LOT of things I despise about the mormon cult, but right at the top of the list is the total lack of boundaries of the morg, and also so many of the members. Is it because they believe they are god's chosen that common human etiquette and kindness do not apply to them? Ya think???
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
THANKS Steve for time, effort and thought in this posting. Your words brought up some raw emotions from my past that were hard, but probably worthwhile to revisit and unload. My exit began with the intellectual--good ole Philosophy 101 in college, followed sometime later by Fawn Brodie's amazing book, "No Man Knows my History". Found many more wonderful books after that. Years late
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6 years ago
presleynfactsrock
Sometimes I want to follow n' ole Joe's footprints (or would that be his horse's hoofprints?) and hi-tail it out of Dodge. It just gets plain embarassin' to be livin' here in mormondum, and I want to transplant to nyc, ca or maybe even kolob. WHY? BECAUSE This is THE Place gives visitors tours of in-your-face bully Brigham Young's Lion House never telling them that he married a mere 55 lad
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